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Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 73 Send Message	Susan	Report	27 Jun 2018 13:48
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 73 Send Message	Hi, Can anyone help advise if there is anything further I can look for to trace this relative (George William Goode) and their father? Info I have Birth cert - George William Goode Born - 24/04/1861 New Street, Haughley, Stow Suffolk Father - left blank Mother - Maria Goode 1871 Census - Living with mother now called Maria Chinery and Edward Chinery and he is listed as Son? Not found on 1881 census with Maria and Edward? Married to Florence Lambert by 1891 Census Marriage Certificate 14/09/1884 Father listed as George Goode? New to this so I guess I have many questions and any help would be great but I guess the obvious ones are - - could father be left blank on marriage certificates and would he have just made up a father’s name the same as his own? - On the 1871 census Edward is listed as father would this be automatic, a mistake, could he be the father and he was born prior to marriage? - Are there any other sources to look for that could provide further info? Thanks
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:02
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription New Street, Haughley, Stow, Suffolk, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Goode Head Married Male 51 1810 Agricultural Labourer Haughley, Suffolk, England Transcription Maria Goode Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1837 - Harlestone, Suffolk, England Transcription Mary Ann Goode Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 - Harlestone, Suffolk, England Transcription Robert Goode Son - Male 15 1846 Agricultural Labourer Harlestone, Suffolk, England Transcription Betsy Goode Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Haughley, Suffolk, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:04
	Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription Learn more Print Add to tree First name(s) George William Last name Goode Birth year 1861 Baptism year 1861 Baptism date 09 May 1861 Parish Haughley, St Mary Place Haughley Relationship Son Father's first name(s) - Mothers first name(s) Maria Residence Haughley Notes il County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:11
	could this be marias father's death stow covers Haughley district Deaths Jun 1850 (>99%) GOODE George Stow 12 302
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:18
	maria's marriage Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%) Chinery Edwin Stow 4a 643 Scan available - click to view GOODE Maria Stow 4a 643
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:22
	looks like maria had all her children when she was unmarried her parents PARENTS Father George Goode Mother Elizabeth Goode
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,408 Send Message	Maddie	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:25
	it was not unusual for an illigitimate child to make up a fathers name on a marriage to safe face looks like he used his grandfathers name 1841 Harleston, Stow, Suffolk, Englan First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place George Goode Male 25 1816 Suffolk, England Transcription Eliza Goode Female 25 1816 Suffolk, England Transcription Isaac Goode Male 8 1833 Suffolk, England Transcription Mariah Goode Female 4 1837 Suffolk, England Transcription -------------------- Catherine Goode Female 2 1839 Suffolk, England Transcription Alfred Goode Male 0 1841 Suffolk, England Transcription Charlotte Stannard Female 20 1821 Suffolk, England Transcription Edgar Stannard Male 0 1841 Suffolk, England George William Last name Goode Birth year 1861 Baptism year 1861 Baptism date 09 May 1861 Parish Haughley, St Mary Place Haughley Relationship Son Father's first name(s) - Mothers first name(s) Maria Residence Haughley Notes il ------------------------------ County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain Suffolk Family History Society il may mean illegitimate
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:37
	if maria married edwin chinery in 1866 this could be his death Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%) CHINERY Edwin 63 Stow.S. 4a 381
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	27 Jun 2018 14:41
	this could be maria's death Deaths Jun 1879 (>99%) Chinery Maria 41 Stow, S. 4a 370
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,408 Send Message	Maddie	Report	27 Jun 2018 15:01
	1881 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Street, Woolpit, Stow, Suffolk, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Chinery Head Single Male 19 1862 Woolpit, Suffolk, England General Labourer ------------------------------------ Transcription Jane Chinery Sister Single Female 18 1863 Woolpit, Suffolk, England Housekeeper Transcription William Chinery Brother Single Male 16 1865 Woolpit, Suffolk, England General Labourer Transcription Julia Chinery Sister Single Female 11 1870 Woolpit, Suffolk, England Scholar Transcription Alice Chinery Sister Single Female 8 1873 Woolpit, Suffolk, England Scholar Transcription Alfred Chinery Brother Single Male 6 1875 Woolpit, Suffolk, England Scholar
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,042 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	29 Jun 2018 00:15
	To answer your questions .............. New to this so I guess I have many questions and any help would be great but I guess the obvious ones are - - could father be left blank on marriage certificates and would he have just made up a father’s name the same as his own? - On the 1871 census Edward is listed as father would this be automatic, a mistake, could he be the father and he was born prior to marriage? - Are there any other sources to look for that could provide further info? --------------- Father could be left blank on the marriage certificate, and yes, a name may be made up to hide the fact that he was illegitimate, or the name of a close male relative or someone well-known in the village or town or any other variation could also be put A child would be assumed to be the son/daughter of the Head of the house, but could be the son of the WIFE. Sometimes shown as step-son or son-in-law (daughter-in-law) until around 1880 or so. Edward could be the father .......... but not safe to make that assumption. Other sources ............. If you could find his baptism and look at the actual Parish Register, some vicars did make a notation as to the father of a child. However they are more likely to put base-born/illegitimate/bastard or spinster or unmarried woman after the name of the mother.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,042 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	29 Jun 2018 00:52
	Just for the record, and to help us/me 1871 Census Name: George Goode Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: Edward Chinery Mother's name: Maria Chinery Gender: Male Where born: Haughley, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Woolpit County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Stow Sub-registration district: Rattlesden ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 44 Piece: 1732 Folio: 169 Page Number: 7 Edward Chinery 67 Painter Maria Chinery 36 George Goode 10 Jane Chinery 8 b.ca 1863, Woolpit, Suffolk William Chinery 5 b.ca 1866, Woolpit Julia Chinery 1 b.ca 1870, Woolpit I cannot find the birth registrations for the 3 younger children on this census on either Freebmd of GRO Index, under either Chinery or Goode I suspect that Edward accepted them but that he might not be the father, ie the children were illegitimate However, the two youngest children were registered ........... From GRO Index CHINERY, ALICE mmn GOODE GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 545 CHINERY, ALFRED mmn GOODE GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 555
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	29 Jun 2018 01:00
	Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription Learn more Print Add to tree First name(s) Jane Last name Chinery Birth year 1866 Baptism year 1866 Baptism date 02 Mar 1866 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edwin Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes bn 5 Jul 1863 before wedlock / late GOODE County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	29 Jun 2018 01:03
	Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription Learn more Print Add to tree First name(s) William Last name Chinery Birth year 1866 Baptism year 1866 Baptism date 02 Mar 1866 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edwin Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes bn before wedlock / late GOODE County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain Suffolk Family History Society
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	29 Jun 2018 01:04
	Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription Learn more Print Add to tree First name(s) Julia Last name Chinery Birth year 1870 Baptism year 1870 Baptism date 18 May 1870 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edward Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes late GOODE County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,042 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	29 Jun 2018 01:23
	The first Alfred must have died Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 First name(s) Alfred Last name Chinery Birth year 1868 Baptism year 1868 Baptism date 28 Feb 1868 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edward Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes late GOODE County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 His birth was not registered, but his death was ....... Deaths Jun 1868 (>99%) CHINERY Alfred 1 Stow, S 4a 302 Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 First name(s) Julia Last name Chinery Birth year 1870 Baptism year 1870 Baptism date 18 May 1870 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edward Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes late GOODE County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) First name(s) Alfred Last name Chinery Birth year 1876 Baptism year 1876 Baptism date 02 Apr 1876 Parish Woolpit, St Mary Place Woolpit Father's first name(s) Edward Mothers first name(s) Maria Father's occupation Painter Residence Woolpit Notes late GOODE / father decd County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3)
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,050 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	29 Jun 2018 11:53
	I assume you've found George and family in 1901 and 1911, so won't post those. His death ?? (Because he was living in Bradford in 1911.) Deaths Mar 1919 (>99%) Goode George W 57 Bradford 9b 435
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 73 Send Message	Susan	Report	1 Jul 2018 08:23
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 73 Send Message	Thanks all, Some great info for me to sift through. Greatly appreciated. So it looks like we will never know the father?
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,050 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	1 Jul 2018 12:40
	I'm afraid that's the case. We all have various dead ends, of one sort or another, in our trees.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

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