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Findlay Fraser/May Troup

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Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Jun 2018 19:49

Findlay Fraser born Skene Scotland c1821. Married May Troup 1842. James Fraser was son and Andrew James Fraser (grandson?) emigrated to Canada married Amy Lewington 1920's. Anyone out there with any connection please?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jun 2018 20:04


Andrew Jame Fraser
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936
Name:
Andrew Jame Fraser
[Andrew James Fraser]
Age:
22
Birth Year:
abt 1892
Birth Place:
Norwich Noxford England
Marriage Date:
1 Jan 1914
Marriage Place:
York, Ontario, Canada
Father:
James Fraser
Mother:
Anna Major Brys Fraser
Spouse:
Amy Alise Lewington

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jun 2018 20:20

another version of marriage:-

Name Andrew James Fraser
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 01 Jan 1914
Event Place Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender Male
Age 22
Birth Year (Estimated) 1892
Father's Name James Fraser
Mother's Name Anna Maria Boyer

Spouse's Name Amy Alice Lewington
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 20
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1894
Spouse's Father's Name William James Lewington
Spouse's Mother's Name Anne Maria Masters

He is Chauffeur Mechanic
Born:- Norwich, Norfolk

She was born:- Chatham, England

Both are Church of England

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jun 2018 20:32

1911

Name: Andrew James Fraser
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Norwich
Civil Parish: Norwich
Search Photos: Search for 'Norwich' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: 27 Mancroft St, Norwich
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Unemployed
Registration district: Norwich
Registration District Number: 225
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 172
Piece: 11305
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fraser 59 - Travelling Draper (Born Scotland)
Ann Maria Fraser 43
Andrew James Fraser 20
(married 21yrs - 1 child)

1901
Name: Andrew J Fraser
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: James Fraser
Mother: Annie Fraser
Birth Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Norwich
Search Photos: Search for 'Norwich' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Heigham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1842
Folio: 138
Page Number: 31
Household schedule number: 233
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fraser 49 (Travelling Draper, Hawker)
Annie Fraser 32
Andrew J Fraser 10

1891
Name: Andrew J Fraser
Gender: Male
Age: 10/12
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1890
Father: James Fraser
Mother: Ann M Fraser
Birth Place: Norwich
Civil Parish: Heigham
Residence Place: Heigham, Norfolk, England
Sub registration district: West Wymer
ED, Institution or Vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1531
Folio: 75
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fraser 39
Ann M Fraser 23
Andrew J Fraser 10/12




Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jun 2018 20:52

He may have come back ???

Name: Andrew Fraser
Arrival Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1892
Occupation:- Motor-Sufur
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival date: 15 May 1936
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: New York and Cherbourg
Ship Name: Bremen
Shipping line: Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen
Official Number: 2619
Search Ship Database: Search for the Bremen in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jun 2018 21:00

Name: Amy Alice Fraser
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1895
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival date: 15 Sep 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Empress of France
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136266
Search Ship Database: Search for the Empress of France in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Noted as Widow so possible Andrew died in WW1

travelling with a child:- Hazel A. Fraser aged 5yrs

European address:- 194 Napier Road, Gillingham, Kent

EDIT:- (This is the same address as her parents in 1911 census)

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jun 2018 21:13

A tree on ancestry has the following:-

Andrew James Fraser
1890–1961
BIRTH 9 JUN 1890 • Norwich, Norfolk, England
DEATH 27 NOV 1961 • Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Amy Alice Lewington
1894–1973
BIRTH ABT JUNE 1894 • Chatham, Kent, England
DEATH 29 NOV 1973 • Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Children:-

Andrew James Fraser
1918–2006

Jean Mary Fraser
1923–

.....................so passenger record may not be her??

EDIT:- Passenger record is her but the tree on ancestry doesn't show her so not sure how accurate it is??

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Jun 2018 22:21

James in 1881 boarding with his future wife and in laws

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Mancroft Street, Norwich Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England

Andrew Birrell Boyes Head Married Male 39 1842 Dumfriesshire, Scotland Travelling Draper
Lucy Boyes Wife Married Female 37 1844 Norwich, Norfolk, England -
Charles Boyes Son Single Male 14 1867 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
Ann Maria Boyes Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
George Boyes Son Single Male 11 1870 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
James Fraser Boarder Single Male 29 1852 Aberdeenshire, Scotland Travelling Draper

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2018 13:25

Have you checked in search all member trees for possible connections on this site?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2018 13:28

For INFO only

First name(s) Findlay
Last name Fraser
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 27 Nov 1842
Marriage place Skene,Aberdeen,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) May
Spouse's last name Troup
Place Skene
County Aberdeenshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910


alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Jun 2018 11:58

Possible for James in 1861?


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leddach Cottage, Skene, Parish of Skene, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
May Fraser Head Married Female 43 1818 Pauper Domestic Serv Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
John Fraser Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
James Fraser Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
Jessy M Fraser Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland


Which would make this the 1851 for the family.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leddach, Old Skene Road, Skene, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Finlay Fraser Head Married Male 51 1800 Road Maker Inverness, Invernessshire, Scotland
Transcription
Mary Fraser Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
Ann Fraser Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
Margaret Fraser Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
William Fraser Son Unmarried Male 4 1847 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Transcription
John Fraser Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 - -

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Jun 2018 12:06

This would be Findlay's death. From https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. His mother's maiden name was McLean.

FRASER

FINDLAY

55

MCLEAN

1855

238/ 19

Skene

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Jun 2018 20:43

1920 passenger record IS Amy Alice, wife of Andrew James Fraser.
Here is her family in 1911, living at same address as stated on record:-

Name: William James Lewington
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rotherhithe
Civil Parish: Gillingham
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County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 194 Napier Road, Gillingham, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: stonehouseman 1st Grade
Registration district: Medway
Registration District Number: 47
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 249
Piece: 3954
Household Members:
Name Age
William James Lewington 48 (Storehouse Man, 1st grade)
Annie Maria Lewington 52
William John Lewington 25
Walter James Lewington 20
Alfred Martin Lewington 18
Victor Lewington 15

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Jun 2018 21:20

There looks to have also been another child:-

Name Helen Amy Fraser
Event Type Death
Event Date 15 Dec 1921
Event Place York, Ontario, Canada
Gender Female
Age 0
Birth Date 13 Dec 1921
Birthplace Toronto
Cause of Death:- Congenital Circulation failure
Burial Date 17 Dec 1921
Burial Place Prospect
Father's Name Andrew James Fraser
Born:- Norwich, England
Mother's Name Amy A. Livingston
Born:- Kent
Address:- (looks like) 216 Spadina Road

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Jun 2018 09:20

Thank you for the information and your time taken to look at this for me.
David R Powell

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Jun 2018 10:13

As 1855 was the first year of statutory registration in Scotland, deaths recorded in that year give more information. If you get credits and buy Finlay's death record it should give the names and ages of all his children (including any deceased) if the informant knows the details.