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He is my grandfather. As I said on the marriage to Esther - Charles L.s fathers name was on the certificate and the folk on the 1881 census are my relatives so I am sure these are the correct Charles Laurence Baker. Some other information has come via a distant cousins tree

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Oops, safc beat me to it1

Presumably Charles and Mary in 1881:

Charles Baker
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Charles Baker
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary A. Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 1 Cromwell Terr
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Telegraph Engineer (Appar Maker)
Registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors:
Piece: 4404
Folio: 38
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Baker 34
Mary A. Baker 34
Ida M. Baker 6
Maud E. Baker 4
Charles P. Baker 3
Mabel L. Baker 1
Ebenezer Beal 31
Mary Goddard 15

They're still together in 1901 census.

By 1911, Charles is with another "wife", Frances Maud, 45, born Liverpool, claiming to have been married for 23 years..

BAKER, CHARLES PHILIP BEAL Order
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 475

The above are my relatives.

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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Cromwell Terrace, Halifax, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

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Charles Baker Head Married Male 34 1847 Kensington, Middlesex, England Telegraph Engineer (Appar Maker)
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Mary A Baker Wife Married Female 34 1847 Chelsea, Middlesex, England -
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Ida M Baker Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Dalston, Middlesex, England Scholar
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Maud E Baker Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Scholar
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Charles P Baker Son Single Male 3 1878 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Scholar
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Mabel L Baker Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Halifax, Yorkshire, England -
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Ebenezer Beal Brother In Law Single Male 31 1850 Brighton, Sussex, England Scientific Inst Maker
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Mary Goddard Servant Single Female 15 1866 Norwich, Norfolk, England Gen Serv

Thanks for info, I knew divorce was really only available to those who could afford it but Charles father was reasonably wealthy by all accounts so I thought maybe he had agreed to pay for it. When their daughter got married it was stated that her father was deceased and it was her uncle Edmond whose name was on the certificate. Just wondered if Charles had legally divorced but having now said he was put as deceased then I agree he more than likely did marry bigamously or just lived with Mary. Thank you again.

Esther is a widow on that 1891 census.

Age a few years out but perhaps the informant got it wrong?

Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
Baker Charles Lawrence 47 Pancras 1b 48

If your Charles Lawrence was still alive then, it looks like a different man.

Not seeing your Charles's marriage to Mary Beal.

Can you post a census record of your family please?

Where did you find he married Mary Beal. He is on the 1871 census still with Esther


It looks like there's two Charles l Baker b c1847

The one with Mary ann on the 1881 is an telegraph engineer

The one married to Esther was a house agent aged 20 when he married in 1865 so born c1845

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Aldersgate Street, St Botolph Aldersgate, City of London, London & Middlesex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Esther E Baker Head Widow Female 45 1846 Sussex, England Hotel Proprietor
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James Thorn Boarder Single Male 42 1849 - House Decorator
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Jessie Showdery Servant Single Female 20 1871 Surrey, England Cook
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Annie E Shorey Servant Single Female 27 1864 London, Middlesex, England House Maid
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Elizabeth Davis Boarder Single Female 29 1862 London, Middlesex, England Independent
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Jane S Townsend Boarder Single Female 17 1874 - Independent
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Florence Hatton Boarder Single Female 26 1865 Berkshire, England Independent
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Jack Hodge Visitor Single Male 26 1865 Cumberland, England Clerk

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
125, Aldersgate Street, Glasshouse Yard, City of London, London & Middlesex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Esther Emily Baker Head Married Female 34 1847 Sussex, England Coffee House Keeper
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Emily Louise Baker Daughter Single Female 16 1865 City of London, Middlesex, England Assistant Keeper (Inn)

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Archway Road Victoria Cottages, Southside, Hornsey, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles L Baker Head - Male 24 1847 - Middlesex, England
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Esther E Baker Wife - Female 23 1848 - Sussex, England
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Emily L Baker Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
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Henry M Capner Visitor - Male 23 1848 - Warwickshire, England
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Edward Prickett Visitor - Male 40 1831 - Middlesex, England
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Jane Spiller Servant - Female 19 1852 - Middlesex, England

charles is a clerk

To get an idea of area


Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
Baker Charles Laurence Holborn 1b 915
Baker Charles Lawrence Holborn 1b 915
Hudson Esther Emily Holborn 1b 915

Unlikely at that time they would have divorced as it was expensive and rare among ordinary working folk. Often when couples split up they either found new partners and lived as husband and wife or married bigamously.

Would someone be able to look for a divorce concerning the above please

I have found a marriage in 1865 to Esther Hudson (1844-1911) they had a child born in 1866. His fathers name was on the certificate.

He married Mary Beal (b 1847) in 1867 and had several children between 1875 and 1886. These children were my ancestors.

Did he later marry Frances Maud (?) born 1866. This was from another persons tree
. Did Charles get divorced from Esther? Any help appreciated. Thank you