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Travelling Salesman.?? Frederick HASTINGS.

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jul 2018 19:25

Mary Cate's a colleague of Christiana:

Mary Cate
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Cate
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relationship to Head: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: East Clandon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Pitminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: Barton Grange
Occupation: Housekeeper & Cook
Registration district: Taunton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 2364
Folio: 108
Page Number: 21

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2018 19:26

Interesting ................

different occupation for William on the record that AG found vs the one I found??????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2018 19:30

I don't see Mary Cate on this 1851 record, and is this Christiana?? Age is wrong

1851 Census

Francis W Newton Head Married Male 36 1815 Magistrate Landed Proprietor London, Middlesex, England
Catherine B Newton Wife Married Female 27 1824 - India
Emily M Newton Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Pitminster, Somerset, England
William Thorn Servant Unmarried Male 24 1827 Footman Bishops Green, Somerset, England
Sophia Jackman Servant Widow Female 56 1795 House Keeper Pressen, Surrey, England
Christiana Hastings Servant Unmarried Female 35 1816 Nurse Westwick
Sarah Jarvis Servant Widow Female 49 1802 House Maid Liverton, Devon, England
Emma Grover Servant Unmarried Female 16 1835 Lady's Maid Ponde, Surrey, England
Ann Hayes Servant Unmarried Female 35 1816 Laundry Maid Pitminster, Somerset, England
Elizabeth Hartnell Servant Unmarried Female 28 1823 House Maid Wellington, Somerset, England
Jane Kent Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 Kitchen Maid Dallington, Somerset, England
Faith Farley Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Dairy Maid Black Bourton, Devon, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2018 19:45

That Christian Hastings in the 1871 appears to be the same person as the Christiana Hastings in the 1851 .............. same birthplace, same occupation. Except that she says she is Married in 1871.

Name: Christian Hastings
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Westgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 10b
Household schedule number: 397
Piece: 5073
Folio: 41
Page Number: 22

Ann Burris 64 Lodging House Keeper
Maryan Hetherington 14 Servant
Christian Hastings 54 Married, Nurse

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2018 20:04

Is this Christiana in 1861, with birthplace showing as East Ruston, Norfolk

1861 Census

Name: Christiana Bell
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: 1811
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: East Ruston, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Wilton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 12

Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 1617
Folio: 117
Page Number: 28

Margaret Ainslie 64
Amelia C Ainslie 27
Margaret S Ainslie 5
Edward F Ainslie 1
Jane Jona Pulker 46
Christiana Bell 50 Married, House Servant
Mary Cawley 23
Ann Chaplin 23


When did William die?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2018 20:16

Christiana Lilburn, wife of William Lilburn says she was born in Newcastle, Northumberland on the 1871 Census, and has lost several years in age

Does this woman keep inventing herself?????

1871 Census
Name: Christiana Lilburn
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Lilburn
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth


Then it's back to Norfolk in 1881

Dea

Dea Report 3 Jul 2018 21:51

I think you have the right Christiana in 1861 Sylvia and I think this is William:


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hatch Green, Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bell Head Married Male 58 1803 School Masters Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
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Miriam Bell Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Othery, Somerset, England


He was a widower in 1851 so that would fit with the marriage in 1858:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Smallmoor, Middlezoy, Bridgwater, Somerset, England

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William Bell Head Widower Male 47 1804 Annuitant Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
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Elizabeth J Bell Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 House Keeper London, Middlesex, England
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William H Bell Son - Male 13 1838 Scholar Taunton, Somerset, England
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Emma Bell Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Bishops Lydeard, Somerset, England
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Eliza A Bell Daughter - Female 3 1848 Scholar Othery, Somerset, England
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Meriam Bell Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Middlezoy, Somerset, England

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Jul 2018 00:41

Thanks Dea


But there still seems to be no Christiana (without surname) or Hastings (without forename) baptised in East Ruston between 1800 and 1825 (on FreeReg)

Sally

Sally Report 4 Jul 2018 09:38

Good Morning ArgyllGran, Sylvia and Dea,
Many thanks for all your messages.
I hope there may be some helpful info on the second marriage cert.
I will post as soon as it at arrives.
If it is the same Christiana, she had a baby ( Alfred ) in Norwich around 1830.
She was not married. I do wonder if maybe her Mum and Dad were not married
either, could be why her father's name changed from Frederick on 1st wedding cert
to Charles on the second.?? Or maybe he could have been Charles Frederick or Frederick Charles.??
Regards
Sally