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William Hay and Margaret Campbell

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 23:15

Other possible children of William Hay and Agnes Miller/MIllar:

HAY

ELIZABETH

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLER

F

05/05/1782

498/

20 158

Kirkintilloch

HAY

ROBERT

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLER

M

08/08/1784

498/

20 177

Kirkintilloch

Third child?

HAY

JOHN

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLER FR696 CHILD 3 (FR696)

M

26/06/1786

622/

30 138

Barony

and with the variant spelling of Millar

an earlier William?

HAY

WILLIAM

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLAR FR389 (FR389)

M

29/03/1789

646/

20 138

Govan

HAY

ROBERT

ROBERT HAY/AGNES MILLAR FR392 (FR392)

M

04/07/1790

572/

20 82

Neilston

HAY

JEAN

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLAR FR395 (FR395)

F

22/04/1792

646/

20 148

Govan

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 22:58

The 1851 census safc posted said William Hay was born c1806 East Kilpatrick. Apparently East Kilpatrick is or was also known as New Kilpatrick.

There is this possible baptism:

Name William Hay<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender Male
Christening Date 16 Sep 1805
Christening Place NEW KILPATRICK,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 10 Sep 1805
Father's Name William Hay<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name Agnes Miller<<<<<<<<<<

Basic entry for same baptism on Scotland's People:

HAY

WILLIAM

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLER

M

16/09/1805

500/

20 196

New or East Kilpatrick<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

A sister?

HAY

AGNES

WILLIAM HAY/AGNES MILLER

F

20/11/1796

500/

20 141

New or East Kilpatrick

EDIT: One of William's children by Margaret Campbell had the middle name MILLER and first name AGNES, is she named for her paternal grandmother?

Name Agnes Miller Hay<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender Female
Birth Date 13 Jun 1863
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 19:31

Birth of James from census 1841?


James Hay
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name James Hay
Gender Male
Christening Date 02 Jul 1826
Christening Place CATHCART,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 03 Jun 1826
Father's Name William Hay<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name Mary Mirrlees<<<<<<<<<

This might be birth of 'Jane' from census 1841:

Name Jean Hay
Gender Female
Christening Date 12 Jul 1828
Christening Place OLD KILPATRICK,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 08 Jun 1828
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Mary Lees

My gut feeling is that Mary Lee/Lees/Mirilees is one and the same person.

safc

safc Report 16 Jul 2018 19:28


William Hay
mentioned in the record of William Hay and Mary Mirrlees
Name William Hay
Spouse's Name Mary Mirrlees
Event Date 11 Jun 1826
Event Place Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 19:25

The family in census 1841 with a couple of extra children?

Name: William Hay
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Hutchesontown
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 14 Rose St
Occupation: App Upholsterer
Parish Number: 644/2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hay 35
Mary Hay 35
William Hay 17
James Hay 15
Jane Hay 13
Mathew Hay 11
Janet Hay 9
John Hay 5
Robert Hay 2

17 yr old William was born in County (Lanarkshire)
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I wonder if this is his baptism, and if 'Mary Lee' and 'Mary Mirilees' are the same, but it's very tenuous:

Name William Hay
Gender Male
Christening Date 05 Sep 1824
Christening Place GORBALS,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 26 Jul 1824
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Mary Mirilees

If so, his parents seem to have married a couple of years later...

Name William Hay<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Name Mary Mirrlees<<<<<<<<<<
Event Date 11 Jun 1826
Event Place Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

EDIT Had just added this marriage at the same time as Safc was also posting it.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 18:52

I wondered if these baptisms tally with the first three children in the 1851 census safc found, but I can't find Robert born in Glasgow to cross ref mother Mary's maiden name.

Name Matthew Hay
Gender Male
Christening Date 26 Dec 1830
Christening Place OLD KILPATRICK,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 06 Dec 1830
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Mary Lee

Name Janet Moncrief Hay
Gender Female
Christening Date 01 Nov 1833
Christening Place OLD KILPATRICK,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 27 Oct 1833
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Mary Lee

EDIT: There is a niece called Janet Montcrieff in census 1851 as posted previously by safc, = connection?

Name John Masterson Hay
Gender Male
Christening Date 10 Jul 1836
Christening Place OLD KILPATRICK,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 15 Jun 1836
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Mary Lee

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 18:29

The family in census 1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

58, Clyde Street, Barony, Anderston, Lanarkshire, Scotland

William Hay Head Married Male 65 1806 Harbour Porter Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Margaret Hay Wife Married Female 37 1834 - Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Anne Hay Daughter - Female 12 1859 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Adam Hay Son - Male 9 1862 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret Hay Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Duncan Hay Son - Male 1 1870 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Neish Lodger Married Male 43 1828 Iron Turner & Fitter Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Rachel Neish Lodger Married Female 41 1830 - Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

safc

safc Report 16 Jul 2018 18:29

????

1851 Census
7 Records found


Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: St Enochs Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 541 Page: 7 Schedule: 18
Address: 105 Stockwell Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HAY William Head M M 45 Porter To Steamer Dunbartonshire - East Kilpatrick
HAY Mary Wife M F 47 Ireland - -
HAY Mathew Son U M 20 Coopers Apprentice Dunbartonshire - Dalmuir
HAY Janet Dau U F 18 Power Loom Weaver Dunbartonshire - Dalmuir
HAY John Son U M 15 Plumbers Apprentice Dunbartonshire - Dalmuir
HAY Robert Son - M 11 Scholar Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MONCRIEFF Janet Niece U F 18 Domestic Servant Lanarkshire - Glasgow

safc

safc Report 16 Jul 2018 18:23


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clyde Street, Barony, Anderston, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hay Head Married Male 55 1806 Harbour Porter Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Transcription
Margaret Hay Wife Married Female 30 1831 Wife Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
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Margaret Campbell Hay Daughter Unmarried Female 5 1856 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Ann Hay Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1859 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 18:23

Baptisms for children? Daur Margaret has already been posted.

Name Duncan Campbell Hay
Gender Male
Birth Date 23 Aug 1869
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Name Agnes Miller Hay
Gender Female
Birth Date 13 Jun 1863
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Name Ann Hay
Gender Female
Birth Date 11 Mar 1859
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Name Adam Carter Hay
Gender Male
Birth Date 16 May 1861
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 16 Jul 2018 18:22

You'll probably need to use Scotland's People, which charges for the information, it is not a subscription site, so other people can't use it to help you without cost to themselves.

You can search it for free, but need credits to access the information.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Family search has brief details of the marriage but you'd need to get the details of parents etc off Scotland's people. There are also some potential baptisms on familysearch - you need to register to use it but it's free.

https://www.familysearch.org/

Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910

Name William Hay
Spouse's Name Margaret Campbell
Event Date 14 Sep 1855
Event Place Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

safc

safc Report 16 Jul 2018 18:20

????

Margaret Campbell Hay
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name Margaret Campbell Hay
Gender Female
Birth Date 30 Jan 1856
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Hay
Mother's Name Margaret Campbell

Lewisroots

Lewisroots Report 16 Jul 2018 17:50

I am looking for information about William Hay and Margaret Campbell who were married in Glasgow in 1855. I am especially interested in their parents but also in their children.