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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 09:32

Please can anyone find these two families on the 1841 census.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Winchester Street, St Marys Southampton, Southampton, Hampshire, England

Thomas Masters Head Married Male 40 1811 Chair Manufacturer Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Lydia Masters Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Melicent Masters Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Domestic Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Transcription
Thomas Masters Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar Holborn, Middlesex, England
Eliza Masters Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Rhoda Masters Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1847 Scholar Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Melicent was actually born Jane Melicent.

And.......... Thomas's two brothers John and Francis.........

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Village, Lyndhurst, New Forest, Hampshire, England

John Masters Head Married Male 53 1798 Chair Maker Malborough, Wiltshire, England
Ann Masters Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Braishfield, Hampshire, England
Francis Masters Brother Unmarried Male 37 1814 Teacher Of Mathematics Wiltshire, England

Prickles ;o))

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 09:42

1861
Name: Thomas Masters
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lydia Masters
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Newington St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 345
Folio: 100
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Masters 50
Lydia Masters 52
Rhoda Masters 14

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 10:07

Hi Mel

It's the 1841 census records i am struggling to find.

:-(

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 10:23

So am I and I have tried Thos Masters. :-|

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 10:28

Could this be their son Thomas?

Name: Thomas Master
Age: 3weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Cavendish Square
Neighbors:
Piece: 676
Book: 3
Folio: 31
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Lady Cornwall 45<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas Chester Master 25
Catherine Master 20
Thomas Master 3weeks<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ann Thompson 30
Hester Jones 70
Harriett Powell 25
Mary Thomas 25
Ann Beavan 20
Elizabeth Hopkin 20
William Morris 25
George Edward 20

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 10:31

Nah don't think it is.........

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 10:43

Sooo frustrating!!

:-|

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jul 2018 11:00

Don't know if you have this.

Another daugther?

Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916


Name: Ellen Masters
Baptism Date: 5 May 1839
Baptism Place: Salisbury, St Martin With St Mary Magdalene Mission Church, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Salisbury, St Martin
Search Photos: Search for 'Salisbury, St Martin With St Mary Magdalene Mission Church' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Thomas Masters
Mother: Lydia Masters


Deaths Sep 1844 (>99%)
MASTERS Ellen Salisbury 8 273

Age 5 from GRO record.


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jul 2018 11:09

Thomas also born Salisbury?

Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916

Name: Thomas Masters
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1842
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1842
Baptism Place: Salisbury, St Edmund, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Salisbury, St Edmund
Search Photos: Search for 'Salisbury, St Edmund' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Father: Thomas Masters
Mother: Lydia Masters

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 11:16

Morning Andrew

I didn't know about the daughter Ellen as she does not appear on the 1851 census.

So thank you for that. ;o))

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 11:19

Possibly......

??

Ellen Masters in the Wiltshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1916
Name: Ellen Masters
Age: 5
Birth Date: abt 1839
Burial Date: 15 Sep 1844
Burial Place: Salisbury, St Thomas, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Salisbury, St Thomas

Res: Brown Street.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 Jul 2018 11:22

Death for Ellen. Surely the family should be in Salisbury in 1841, but I can't see them.

Wiltshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1916


Name: Ellen Masters
Age: 5
Birth Date: abt 1839
Burial Date: 15 Sep 1844
Burial Place: Salisbury, St Thomas, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Salisbury, St Thomas


Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 11:28

Ellen should be on the 1841 census.......but i still can't find any of them.

:-| :-|

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Jul 2018 11:33

There are quite a number missing parishes on the 1841 census. Have a look here to see what is missing:-

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

Kath. x

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 11:34

They must be in Wiltshire or on their way to London as Thomas was born 1841 in Holborn.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 11:35

I was just going to say perhaps on missing census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 11:46

Thank you so much for your time everyone.......i think i will give up on the 1841 census records.

This line of Masters are all new to me so it will "hopefully" be fun researching them

Thank you.....Prickles :-D

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jul 2018 12:17

???

MASTERS, ELLEN YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in SALISBURY Volume 08 Page 409

Dea

Dea Report 22 Jul 2018 13:11

Could this be another child - if so, it 'could' put the family in the Somerset area around 1841 ??

Probably no connection but 'just in case' :

MASTERS, ROBERT YOUNG Order
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in BRIDGEWATER UNION Volume 10 Page 335 Order


??????? Deaths:
MASTERS, ROBERT 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in WELLS UNION Volume 10 Page 323

Dea x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Jul 2018 13:34

Lydia's maiden name was Young.........so that is the correct birth reg for Ellen.

Thank you for that info Dea. I will look into it.

:-)

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

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