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Perfectly possible, Christine - it wouldn't be an unusual thing to do.

Hi ArgyllGran yes the Amelia Brown could be my Grandmother as she is the right age but I still cannot find a marriage for her to a Richard James Burrows. I see that you have found my parents information about there marriage in 1939 and it says that his father is deceased because this is what he was told as a child in the children's home.
Is it possible that she just took his name without marrying him as this happened on my mothers side of the family and my maternal Great-Grandfather changed his name after he had been married for years and his children took this name as well.

Hi I have the information from the childrens home that my father was placed in and have since been in touch with Teeside archives to see if they have any workhouse records for the years 1914/17 but unfortunately the records have been lost or destroyed so no joy there. It is well known that County Durham were not very good at keeping records up to date or even keeping records at all. It appears that my father lived in name only without any pedigree.

Christine ..........

did the man in Durham give you the name of the Childrens Home, and of the Workhouse that your father had been in?

It might be possible to find those records and see if they had any information.

Easily done!

Oh yes - sorry, I missed that.

Christine stated in her post yesterday at 18.38 that he was a labourer

Already asked by other people -

What was your grandfather's occupation stated to be, on your father's birth cert?

Just a suggestion - not too far from Stockton in 1911:

Amelia Brown
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Amelia Brown
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Steeby, Yorkshire, England [Skeeby ]
Civil Parish: Darlington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 10 Fife Road Darlington Durham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Domestic Servt (general)
Registration district: Darlington
Registration District Number: 543
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 29505
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Madeodfarey 42 [Macleod Carey ]
Evelyn Madeodfarey 30
Alan Madeodfarey 10
Patienco Madeodfarey 11
Margery Madeodfarey 8
Cicely Madeodfarey 4
Hannah Sanderson 76
Amelia Brown 25


and in 1901:

Amelia Brown
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Amelia Brown
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Robinson Brown
Mother: Mary A Brown
Birth Place: Skeeby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skeeby
Ecclesiastical parish: Easby
Town: Skeeby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Richmond (Yorkshire)
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 4610
Folio: 45
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Robinson Brown 39
Mary A Brown 37
Amelia Brown 14
Thomas Wm Brown 13
Joseph Brown 11
Annie Brown 9
Jane Brown 8
Margaret Brown 6

What info is on your father's marriage cert? does it say if his father was deceased or not?

Richard J Burrows
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Richard J Burrows
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration district: Rother Valley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Mary M Dudley
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 2368


Richard J Burrows
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Richard J Burrows
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 27 Jan 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 30
Residence Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Lorry Driver Mechanic
Schedule Number: 300
Sub Schedule Number: 7
Enumeration District: KSAN
Registration district: 511A-2
Inferred Spouse: Mary M Burrows
Household Members:
Name
William Dudley
Ethel K Dudley
Ivy Dudley
Ethel K Dudley
Joan Dudley
This record is officially closed.
Richard J Burrows
Mary M Burrows

1911 for the address on the birth cert



Name: Lily Harper
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stockton On Tees
Civil Parish: Stockton on Tees

County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 15 Prince Regent St Stockton On Tees
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Domestic Servant General
Registration district: Stockton
Registration District Number: 544
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 29558
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Richards 33
Agnes Richards 33
Gladys Richards 7
Irene King 1
Joseph Betteridge 17
Lily Harper 16

Suggestion only, based purely on location

1939

Burrows Household (2 People)
58 Somerset Road , Stockton R.D., Durham, England


Richard J Burrows 07 Apr 1873 Male Wharf Contractor Retired Widowed 230 1
Hannah E Hanmesley 15 Dec 1873 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 230 2

Based on birth date given above..

First name(s) RICHARD JAMES
Last name BURROWS
Birth year 1873
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Mitchell
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 60

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17, Albert Street, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England


James Burrows Head Married Male 32 1849 Exeter, Devon, England Butcher (Unemployed) Transcription
Elizabeth Burrows Wife Married Female 33 1848 Winkleigh, Devon, England - Transcription
Richard J Burrows Son Single Male 7 1874 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar Transcription
Sidney C Burrows Son Single Male 6 1875 Exeter, Devon, England - Transcription
Arthur W Burrows Son Single Male 3 1878 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England - Transcription
Abraham J Burrows Son Single Male 0 1881 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England -


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wood Street, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England


James Burrows Head Married Male 43 1848 Devon, England Butcher Transcription
Elizabeth Burrows Wife Married Female 43 1848 Devon, England - Transcription
Richard J Burrows Son - Male 18 1873 Devon, England Moulder Iron Transcription
Sidney O Burrows Son - Male 16 1875 Devon, England Box Maker Transcription
Arthur W Burrows Son - Male 13 1878 Nottinghamshire, England Scholar Transcription
Albert M Burrows Son - Male 7 1884 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Scholar Transcription
Ernest E Burrows Son - Male 5 1886 Nottinghamshire, England Scholar Transcription
Maude K Burrows Daughter - Female 0 1891 Nottinghamshire, England


Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
BLAND Maria Mansfield 7b 149 Scan available - click to view
Burrows Richard James Mansfield 7b 149 Scan available - click to view
COUPE Joseph Mansfield 7b 149 Scan available - click to view
James Hannah Mansfield 7b 149 Scan available - click to view
ROBINSON Joseph Mansfield 7b 149

Hi everybody, My father was born on the 27th January 1914 at 15 Prince regent street,Stockton-on Tees. His mothers Maiden name was Brown and his father was a labourer. I have had a gentleman from Durham archives search for any information with regards to my father and his parents. He sent me information that my father entered a Childrens home in Stockton on the 10th August 1917 and left there in 1928. He arrived at the childrens home from the workhouse. I have searched every record possible to find a marriage or death for Richard and Amelia since 2004 but have drawn a blank. The only thing I have found was a death in 1924 in Manchester for a couple with the same name. I have come to the conclusion that they either abandon him or they used somebodies name and not there own.

I think the Bradford couple are not the poster's family. Amelia would have been a bit old to be having a child in 1914/15.


Their son couldn't be the father either as they have declared him deceased on the 1911 census.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Maperton Road, Bradford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

James R Burrows Head Married Male 29 1862 Yorkshire, England Cotton Turner
Amelia Burrows Wife Married Female 32 1859 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Cotton Carder
Harry Burrows Son - Male 0 1891 Yorkshire, England -

This seems to be the baptism of the Richard found on the 1939 register.

First name(s) Richard James
Last name Burrows
Birth year -
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 23 Apr 1873
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Exeter, St Thomas
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 4781A/PR/1/8
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
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What was the occupation of Richard James Burrows on you father's birth certificate please?

Is it possible that your grandfather died in WW1?

What information do you have on your grandmother please?

Not seeing a marriage of a Richard Burrows to an Amelia that would fit with a birth circa 1915.

Your father's name and birth year would help us to help you

Marriage for the couple found in the 1901 and 1911 census.

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
Boyes George Anderson Bradford Y. 9b 136
>>Burrows James Richard Bradford 9b 136
>>Ross Amelia Bradford, Y. 9b 136
TAYLOR Hannah Bradford, Y. 9b 136


Possible birth for their child?



BURROWS, ALFRED ROSS Order
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 82

Your father?


Births Mar 1914 (>99%)

BURROWS Richard J Brown Stockton 10a 181 Scan available - click to view

And their possible deaths same area

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1926 (>99%)
Burrows Amelia 67 Bradford 9b 109
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Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%)
Burrows James R 75 Bradford 9b 339