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We’re looking for a Frederick Charles Eldridge. Erika has seen records suggesting the person who married Alice was Frederick Clement Eldridge.

If that is correct, considering Frederick Clement’s age & other records, he could have been recalled for Military Service
(Still haven’t been able to access the main PC :-|)

So Alice with the two closed records in 1939 could be the right one .

Her birth fits the DOB given in 1939:

Alice Milner
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alice Milner
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 738


Had they separated?
Maybe Frederick just said he was widowed - or maybe it's a mistake as Erika has suggested .

Am I correct in thinking that the 1939 register wasn't like the censuses, when you're listed wherever you happen to be on the census date, and that Frederick and Alice would be listed at their usual addresses?

Darn It! You could be right about the 1939 Register.

Thank you for following through. That’s saved me £9.25

It's possible that his status on the 1939 entry is erroneous - whoever filled in the form used the father's info twice...............

Eldridge Frederick Clements 1900 — 1900 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Medway, Kent, England

Eldridge Frederick Clements 1900 — 1908-23 British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924 Gillingham, Kent, England

Eldridge Frederick Clements 1901 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Friendsbury Extra, Strood, Kent, England
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Eldridge Frederick Clements 1900 — 1917 British Royal Air Force, Airmen's Service Records 1912-1939 Gillingham, Kent

Eldridge Frederick Clements 1900 — 1922 Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942 Great Britain

Eldridge Frederick Clements 07/06/1900 1973 1973 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

According to a tree on Ancestry, which looks well-researched, Alice Milner's husband was Frederick Clements Eldridge, born 07/06/1900 Gillingham, died 1973, Cambridge

Yes, we/I had come to that conclusion. It was hoped the DC informant was a relative. That was not the case.

Once I’m on the PC, it might be possible to check the ER. However, they may not be online.

One line of enquiry was who he had married as he’s noted as a widow in 1939. If I choose to pursue this, then the Eldridge/Milner MC would be the next step.

Looking back at your first post, the death was registered in June, but the person cremated didn’t die until 5th September, so that couldn’t be the same man

Probably too late in pointing this out......

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The DC has arrived.

Frederick Charles Eldridge b 23 Nov 1897 in Sittingbourne.
Retired Civil Servant.
Informant ‘causing the body to be cremated’ has an usual address of the hospital where he died. Probably an hospital employee?
Deceased’s address 29 Buemholm? Rd, Abbey Wood SE2

Place of death, Brook Hospital, Greenwich

DC ordered. ETD 3 Aug so may be arriving the following week.

Arghh!

the Alice Eldridge living in medway has a child in 1937 and is still in the medway area

she says married .

so why is frederick c saying he is a widower in 1939

think that death cert may hold the info and hopefully the informant is a relation

Name: Ivy Maud Eldridge
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1903
Registration Date: Dec 1986
Registration district: Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 162

Name: Frederick Charles Eldridge
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 27 May 1900
Registration Date: Mar 1979
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 0388

so this is the london couple

Looks like Alice Milner may also have been from a 'Police family' ?

Maybe that's how they met?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Police Quarters Upnor, Friendsbury Extra, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joseph Milner Head Married Male 43 1868 Aberdeenshire Old Rain Police Constable
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Alice Milner Wife Married Female 35 1876 Kent Gillingham -
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Albert Edward Milner Son - Male 11 1900 Kent Gillingham School
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Alice Milner Daughter - Female 8 1903 Kent Gillingham -
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John Milner Son - Male 5 1906 Kent Gillingham -
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Grace Hannah Milner Daughter - Female 2 1909 Kent Frindsbury -

IF this is the same one that is !!....

Dea x

Good idea. He's close enough to the main branch to warrant it.
Thank you for your help. :-)

but the death for the right birthdate could still be your man and he was in hospital in greenwich when he died

for instance my BIL lived in Herne Bay Kent and had a main aorta aneurism . Canterbury hospital didnt have the expertise to do the operation and he was transferred to Miller hospital in greenwich where he sadly died
( hospital no longer there )
he was brought back to Herne Bay in Kent for burial

i would be inclined to get that death cert

As you say, its a toss up between Eltham & Sidcup. Where we live it's a choice between Eltham & Bluebell Hill although there has been planning permission for one closer to Gravesend. Not sure if that's up & running yet.

Would you agree the Sep cremation isn't for my Frederick Charles Eldridge?

well someone living in that area the nearest crem would be Sidcup

my parents lived in Charlton and died in the Greenwich reg district The choice was either Sidcup or Eltham for the cremations and Eltham was the chosen one

Heck of coincidence if they had the same dob!

Could Ivy be Ivy Maude?

Frederick Charles Eldridge
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Dartford, Kent, England
Description: Dartford Constituency: Register of Electors

Harrow Manor Way, Abbey Wood/Erith

Eldridge Household (4 People)
23 Abbey Road , Erith M.B., Kent, England


FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Ivy M Eldridge 21 Nov 1903 Female Unpaid Dom Duties Married 282 2
Frederick C Eldridge 27 May 1900 Male Retail Shop Keeper ?roc & Prov Married 282 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

there is another of the same name living in woolwich with a wife ivy Maud

Name: Frederick Charles Eldridge
Year: 1932
County or Borough: Newham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Woolwich
Street address: 23 New Road

could be the Greenwich death

its this marriage

Marriages Mar 1926
Eldridge Frederick C Williams Woolwich 1d 1427
Williams Ivy M Eldridge Woolwich 1d 1427


would say the greenwich death is him ad his wife probably used her second name

Name: Ivy Maude Eldridge >>>>>>
Year: 1934
County or Borough: Newham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Woolwich