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Hello, Christopher was baptised 18 February 1827 at Berwick, according to Family Search. I've come to the conclusion that Christopher and Thomasin maybe didn't get married. Thanks.

There is no record of the marriage, nor of Christopher R's birth/baptism, on ScotlandsPeople.

Remember that Berwick is on the border of England and Scotland and has changed between being part of Scotland and then England many times - although I don't know when this stopped happening.

Kath. x

Their son Christopher Redhead Thompson was baptised 18 Feb 1827 at Berwick, so this could be him but it says born yorkshire, but I've just looked at 1881 (I can't get the original) on fam search and it says born Scotland for Christopher. 1891 back to born England.

Relatives living next door in 1871 ???

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whitwell Colliery, Whitwell House, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Christopher Thompson Head - Male 43 1828 - Yorkshire, England
Isabella Thompson Wife - Female 42 1829 - Durham, England
George Thompson Son - Male 18 1853 - Durham, England
Christopher Thompson Son - Male 10 1861 - Durham, England
Thomas Thompson Son - Male 5 1866 - Durham, England
Thomasine Thompson Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Durham, England

Place of birth doesn't look like Hasfield - much more like Hospital !!

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whitwell Colliery, Whitwell House, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomasine Thompson Head - Female 74 1797 - Durham, England
Christopher Ritchie Grandson - Male 20 1851 - Durham, England

Hello Sylvia, Thomasine is a visitor at Love Street, St Giles, Durham aged 49 and birthplace just says Durham. The 1871 census has her at Whitwell house, Durham (widowed) and her place of birth says Hasfield, Durham. This is off family search.

1861 Census
3 Records found


Piece: RG9/3745 Place: St Nicholas -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 30
Civil Parish: Whitwell House Ecclesiastical Parish: Whitwell House
Folio: 43 Page: 10 Schedule: 30
Address: Whitwell House

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
THOMPSON Christopher Head M M 65 Stoker Whitwell Colliery Northumberland - Bamburgh(Originally: Northumberland - Bambuthrie)
THOMPSON Thomasin Wife M F 65 Northumberland - Bamburgh(Originally: Northumberland - Bambuthrie)
RITCHIE Christopher Grnson - M 11 Pit Boy Co. Durham - New Durham

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whitwell House, Byers Garth, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Christopher Thompson Head Married Male 65 1796 Whitwell Colliery Northumberland, England ******** see below re Place of birth !!!!
Thomasin Thompson Wife Married Female 65 1796 - Northumberland, England
Christopher Ritchie Grandson Unmarried Male 11 1850 Potboy Durham, England

Place of birth within Northumberland is Ditto to husband which is NOT Whitwell Colliery - that's where he worked !! However I can't read the place name

?? Bam or Barn butherie

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Yet the 1851 has her as born Durham St Giles

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Love Street, St Giles, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Ritchey Head Married Male 23 1828 Coal Miner Ireland
Mary A Ritchey Wife Married Female 19 1832 - Durham, England
Christopher Ritchey Son Unmarried Male 0 1851 - St Giles, Durham, England
Thomasine Thompson Visitor Married Female 49 1802 - Durham, England

Marian ...........

in your opening post, you said Thomasin was with Christopher in Co Durham.

What is her birth place according to that census????

One thing to note about that time in Northumberland was that many people were non-conformist and these records are held separately from parish records.

The Northumberland Record Office has a lot of non-conformist records transcribed which makes them quite easy to search through.

We once spent a whole afternoon trawling through parish baptisms looking for my husband's great grandfather, only to be told by one of the ladies working there just 5 minutes before they closed that Northumberland had lots of non-conformists.

She found the record we were looking for in about 2 minutes!

Kath. x

Hello Dea, at the minute I'm trawling through the parish records for Tweedmouth which is where their daughter Isabella was baptised in 1817. I'm now up to 1818 in case they got married after Isabel was born. I did wonder because of the age of Christopher whether they had got married in Scotland. Did they still elope to Gretna back then?

As the 1841 has Thomasin in Northumberland but it is stated on there that this was not her County of birth, should we also be looking at Scottish records perhaps for a marriage?

Dea x

Thank you Kucinta. I've got plenty of time on my hands to do that. I may also try Durham records office also as it's only about £1.50 to order a record. Thanks also Argyll.

Familysearch has images of Bamburgh parish records that can be browsed through, as they are not indexed.

I was able to confirm the baptism of Christopher on April 3rd 1796 to Richard and Frances Thompson, as posted above.

Trouble is, we don't know if Christopher and Thomasine were married at Bamburgh, so there could be quite a lot of trawling to do...

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1918635

EDIT Unfortunately the records only go to 1812... :-(

Apparently Bamburgh marriages 1763-1836 are viewable with a Gold subscription to The Genealogist - 3 months for £24.95.

https://parishregister.co.uk/online/northumberland-parish-records

https://tinyurl.com/y9pufp38

https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/compare/

Thanks Kucinta. His parents are probably correct as Christopher's son Christopher has the middle name of Redhead. I had assumed that he had been called after his mother's maiden name but not so. I guess Thomasine's surname could be anything (assuming they actually got married). the search goes on.

Thanks again.

A tree on Ancestry says that Christopher Thompson was born 1796 Bamburgh to Richard Thompson and Frances REDHEAD. No supporting evidence given.

They haven't found the marriage to Thomazine either.

EDIT:

Freereg does have a Richard and Frances as Christopher's parents:

County Northumberland
Place (with link) Bamburgh
Church name (with link) St Aidan
Register type (with link) Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 03 Apr 1796
Person forename Christopher
Person sex M
Father forename Richard<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother forename Frances<<<<<<<<<<
Father surname THOMPSON
Person abode Shoston
Credit Tickettyboo
File line number 799

There is this child born Belford:

Name Margaret Thompson
Gender Female
Christening Date 19 Aug 1800
Christening Date (Original) 19 AUG 1800
Christening Place BELFORD,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
Birth Date 10 Aug 1800
Father's Name Richard Thompson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name Frances Redhead<<<<<<<<

Hello, I am looking for the marriage of Christoper Thompson (born approx 1796 at Bamburgh, Northumberland to Thomasin ???? Thomasin possibly also born Bamburgh.

Their first child Isabella is baptised1817 at Tweedmouth. Then Frances, Thomasine and Christopher Redhead are baptised at Berwick, Tweedmouth. I thought maybe Thomasin's surname may be Redhead but can't find anything. Another daughter Mary is born round about 1832.

In 1841 census they are at Pittington, Co Durham. In 1851 census Christopher is with his daughter Frances, at Byers Green, Co Durham and Thomasine is at her daughter Marys at Gilesgate, Durham. In 1861 they are are at Whitwell House, Co Durham (their grandson Christopher Ritchie aged 11 is with them -Mary's son).

I only have access to Family Search.

Hope the above is enough - thanks.