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Cissie Poynts (that's how it is spelt) is shown on 1911 census s a grand daughter of my great grandmother Fanny George. There is also a brother Ronald Poynts born 1907.

That is the only trace I can find of these children and although I recognize the name Aunty Sis from when I was a child but was told her name was Sicily after battle(?).

Does anyone know these names - I suspect that the mother of these children could be Clara George who was my g grandmother's oldest daughter who is not shown on the census.

Any info would be wonderful.

There's no GRO record for a ronald poynts

For our reference:


Cissie Poynts
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Cissie Poynts
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Henley On Thames
Civil Parish: Henley on Thames
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Queen Street Henley On Thames Henley
Registration district: Henley
Registration District Number: 150
Sub-registration district: Henley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 242
Piece: 8047
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny George 51
William George 25
Bertha George 17
Alice George 15
Victor George 13
Ada George 11
Ronald Poynts 4 - grandson, Henley on Thames
Cissie Poynts 2
William Platt 67 - lodger
Mark Hawkes 56 - lodger
James Chivers 21 - lodger

There's this child, who is presumably a sibling;

POINTS, VERA HESTER EMILY mms GEORGE
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in HENLEY IN THE COUNTIES OF OXFORD AND BUCKINGHAM Volume 03A Page 951


Maybe parents' marriage ?? (but not in Oxfordshire, and not Clara)

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
GEORGE Annie Elishaba Reading 2c 970
POINTS Fre_eric George Reading 2c 970

Vera H E Points
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Vera H E Points
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Registration district: Henley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Spouse: Leonard L P Wade
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 2049

????

Name: Ronald F Points
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 19 Apr 1928
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Ballarat
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Shipping line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 145596
Master: Captain John W Parker
Home address new cottage , high canons, Shenly , Herts

Ronald Points
Arrival Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1907
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival date: 23 Nov 1929
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne; Sydney; Adelaide; Colombo; Fremantle; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name: Baradine
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 145429
Occ schoolteacher
Home address15 queen Street Henley

He was illegitimate

GEORGE, RONALD FREDERICK POINTS - Order
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in READING Volume 02C Page 378

GEORGE, RONALD FREDERICK POINTS - (no mms)
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in READING Volume 02C Page 378

Her husband passed in 1910

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Name: Frederic G Points
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Henley
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Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 503

These two baptisms both are on 14th March 1909 despite the transcript!

Name: Ronald Frederick George Pountz
Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1909(14th March on image)
Baptism Place: Henley, Holy Trinity, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Holy Trinity, Greys
Father: Frederick Pountz
Mother: Annie Pountz

Name: Vera Hester Emily Pountz
Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1909
Baptism Place: Henley, Holy Trinity, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Holy Trinity, Greys
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Father: Frederick Pountz
Mother: Annie Pountz

Ronald is definitely Pointz on image, more ambiguous on Vera's entry.

Father is a bricklayer on both entries which are consecutive on the register. Address is hard to read, 3 Montreal Terrace?

Parents names tally with the marriage Argyllgran found.

I'm beginning to wonder if Cissie is a nickname for Vera Hester.

Annie in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cheers Victoria Road Wargrave, Wargrave, Berkshire, England

Charles Stranyways Temples Head Married Male 49 1862 Tysmouth Devon Retired Solicitor
Alice Jane Temples Wife Married Female 48 1863 Earsmouth S Devon -
Annie Points Servant Widow Female 26 1885 Henbyn Thamss Oxon Domestic Maid

She remarried

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Name: Horace Smart
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Reading
Inferred County: Berkshire
Spouse: Pointe
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 117

Annie E Points
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Reading
Inferred County: Berkshire
Spouse: Smart
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 1170
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Baptism for Annie?

Name: Annie Elizabeth George
Baptism Date: 11 May 1884
Baptism Place: Henley on Thames, St Mary, Oxfordshire, England
Father: Eliezer George
Mother: Fanny George<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

EDIT: It's Annie Elisheba, not Annie Elizabeth, on the image of the register.

GEORGE, ANNIE ELISHEBA mms SLADE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in HENLEY IN THE COUNTIES OF OXFORD BERKS AND BUCKING Volume 03A Page 729

1901 census with parents Fanny and Eliezer from the baptism I posted at same address, 5 Queen street, as Fanny and the Poyntz children are in 1911..:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
5, Queen Street, Henley, Greys, Oxfordshire, England

>>>>>>>>>Eleazar George Head Married Male 52 1849 Oxfordshire, England General Labourer
>>>>>>>>>>Fanny George Wife Married Female 42 1859 Oxfordshire, England -
>>>>>>>>Annie George Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Oxfordshire, England Housemaid Domestic
William George Son Single Male 15 1886 Oxfordshire, England Errand Boy
Emily George Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Oxfordshire, England -
Henry George Son - Male 11 1890 Oxfordshire, England -
Frederick George Son - Male 9 1892 Oxfordshire, England
Bertha George Daughter - Female 7 1894 Oxfordshire, England -
Alice George Daughter - Female 5 1896 Oxfordshire, England -
Victor George Son - Male 3 1898 Oxfordshire, England -
Mafeking George Daughter - Female 1 1900 Oxfordshire, England

Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)

George Eleazar Henley 3a 667
SLAADE Fanny Henley 3a 667

Annie's burial:

Name: Annie Elesheba Smart
Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1885
Death Date: abt 1958
Burial Date: 8 Jan 1958
Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Hortus Cemetery
Grave Number: 91
Interment Number: 32288

Lynne mentioned the possibility that Cissie was named Sicily after a battle - obviously not the case.

But interesting to see another daughter named Mafeking!

Fortunately it was only her middle name:

Ada Mafeking George
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ada Mafeking George
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Henley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 900

Cissie might be a nick name at a guess. My great aunt was registered as Susannah and always known as Cis. Vice versa one of her daughters was registered as Cissie and always known as Sue!

Wow! Thanks so much to all who answered - I need to dig in to all answers - my grandmother was Bertha George born 1896 and Ada Mafeking was always called Aunty Maff - she must have lived to a ripe old age as I remember her and also Aunty Alice (great aunts of course). My own grandmother Bertha died in 1961 and as a small girl remember them coming to my grandmothers funeral. Aunty Maff I believe married a Frank Squirrel.