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Cant find 1841, Ann and William John Flinn, London

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Gillikins

Gillikins Report 2 Aug 2018 17:04

I have a an 1841 hole in Ann Brimson's story. Can you please help.
Ann Brimson, married William John Flinn 25th December 1838, St. Mary, Newington, Surrey.
Both lived at 68 Walting Street, Newington at the time.
His father Thomas Flinn, Fisherman, William too was a fisherman.
Ann had no occupation, both were full age.
Her father Richard Brimson, she was born in June 1815. Frome
William John was born Southwark, St. Giles, parents, Thomas and Mary.

1851 18? Wellclose Square, Parish St. Mary's, St. Marks, Tower Hamlets, Whitechapel, Middx.
William Flynn 37 Fisherman, b. Surrey, Southwark
Ann wife 35 Somerset, not known
Harriett dau 8 scholar Whitechapel
Ann dau 10 scholar Whitechapel
Mary 4 same
Elizabeth 2 same
William (John) 5 months same

Cant positively identify Ann the daughter's birth, but might be
Ann Maria Flinn MarQ 1841 Whitechapel,
If so, she might be on a census, but I can't find them.
An ideas gratefully received?

Ann the wife if died I believe in 1851 as William, this time and subsequently is Flinn, fire brigade, marries new wife Mary from Deptford.

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Aug 2018 17:22

Possible?

in the 1841 England Census
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Name: Ann Flenn
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: St Mary Whitechapel
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Aldgate
Neighbors:
Piece: 716
Book: 13
Folio: 58
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Richd Harris 30
Mary Harris 25
Rachel Morgen 20
William Mardman 2
Mary Brown 20
Joseph Arkell 25
Rose Arkell 28
Rose Arkell 2
Joseph Parks 25
Julia Parks 25
>>Wilm Flenn 25
>>Ann Flenn 25
>>Wilm Flenn 2
>>Ann Flenn 3 Mo
Joseph Frost 25


Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Aug 2018 17:25

Father is a fisherman here:
Ann Maria Flinn
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name:
Ann Maria Flinn
Gender:
Female
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
25 Apr 1841
Baptism Place:
Southwark St Saviour, Southwark, England
Father:
William Flinn
Mother:
Ann Flinn

Hard to read but think birthdate is 25 March 1841.

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Aug 2018 17:27

Births Dec 1839 (>99%)
FLYNN William John Marylebone 1 143

FLYNN, WILLIAM JOHN BRIMSON Order
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01 Page 143


London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917


Name: William John Flinn
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1840
Baptism Place: Southwark St Saviour, Southwark, England
Father: William John Flinn Fisherman
Mother: Ann Flinn

Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Aug 2018 17:30

Father is William John here, a fisherman:


William John Flinn
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name:
William John Flinn
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
19 Jan 1840
Baptism Place:
Southwark St Saviour, Southwark, England
Father:
William John Flinn
Mother:
Ann Flinn

Birthdate 19 Dec. 1839.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Aug 2018 17:33




Harriet Flinn
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name:
Harriet Flinn
Gender:
Female
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
29 Jan 1843
Baptism Place:
Southwark St Saviour, Southwark, England
Father:
William Flinn
Mother:
Ann Flinn

Born 3 Jan. 1843, father a fisherman.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2018 17:45

You have the correct birth for daughter Ann

FLINN, ANN MARIA BRIMSON
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 510

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Aug 2018 18:33

In the 1841 record posted by Andy for the Flenn family - the father is either a tailor or a jailer.

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Aug 2018 19:41

I'd noticed that as well. Is it me or is the writing for the occupation different to the rest of the page? I was wondering if it had been added by a different hand. Everything else fits.

Andy

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2018 20:06

I think the occupation reads J. Tailor. Presumably it means Journeyman Tailor. If you look at some of the other occupations they also have "J" eg J Carpenter for Journeyman Carpenter.

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 2 Aug 2018 22:07

A wealth of information, thanks so much.
No street address given.?

If it is them in 1841, could the occupation of William read Sailor??

The William John child in 1839 must have died, as there is another born late 1850..

Good job.. Thanks again

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Aug 2018 22:35

The street address is Graces Alley, Whitechapel - no number.

No, the occupation is definitely not Sailor. I agree with RG - it will be Journeyman tailor.
I'm not sure if the handwriting's different or not, Andy. The "ai" and "or" do look a bit taller than similar letters in surrounding words.

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Aug 2018 22:39

Possibly death for William in 1841 census

Deaths Jun 1843 (>99%)
FLYNN William Whitechapel 2 367

FLYNN, WILLIAM 3 Order
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 367

Andy

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 2 Aug 2018 22:42

Thanks Andy, was trying to work that one out.