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Nice work all - THANK YOU.

I'll continue to work away at all of this.

:-D :-D

I think Jane Dalman was nee Dale.

Amy Dalman from census 1841:

County Sussex
Place Pulborough
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 673
Baptism date 15 Jun 1823
Person forename Amy
Father forename James<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother forename Jane<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father surname DALMAN
Person abode Pulbro'
Father occupation Labourer

Marriage of John and Jane?

County Sussex
Place Washington
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 11
Marriage date 30 Apr 1814
Groom forename James
Groom surname DALMAN
Groom parish Washington
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname DALE
Bride parish Washington
Witness1 forename Sarah
Witness1 surname DALE
Witness2 forename Rd
Witness2 surname GOACHER
Transcribed by David Elson
Credit David Elson

Death of James?

County Sussex
Place Fittleworth
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 268
Burial date 15 Oct 1835
Burial person forename James
Burial person surname DOLMAN
Person age 45
Burial person abode Pulborough
Transcribed by Sandra Gould Seenan
File line number 268

I might be wrong to be suspicious about William being a widower at 18 in my earlier post.

Census 1851 has a William and Elizabeth:


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Worlds End, Petworth, Sussex, England

William Hooker Head Married Male 72 1779 Pauper Carrier Stedham, Sussex, England
Elizabeth Hooker Wife Married Female 73 1778 - Northchapel, Sussex, England

The occupation of William on his son John's marriage to widow Jane Dalman is also 'Carrier'

County Sussex
Place Stopham
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1
Marriage date 17 Dec 1838
Groom forename John
Groom surname HOOKER
Groom parish Stopham
Groom condition widower
Groom occupation Labourer
Groom abode Stopham
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname DALMAN
Bride parish Stopham
Bride condition widow
Bride abode Stopham
Groom father forename William<<<<<<<<
Groom father surname HOOKER<<<<<<<<<<
Groom father occupation Carrier<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname DALMAN
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname SAYERS
Witness2 forename Charlotte
Witness2 surname SAWYERS

Elizabeth Austen may have had another child out of wedlock :


Place Tillington
Church name All Hallows
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 184
Birth date 11 Apr 1793
Baptism date 21 Apr 1793
Person forename Sarah<<<<<<<<
Person sex F
Mother forename Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<
Mother surname AUSTIN<<<<<<<<<<<
Transcribed by Clare Grant
Credit Clare Grant
File line number 186

RE the 1859 death, that William was aged 82

HOOKER, WILLIAM 82
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in PETWORTH Volume 02B Page 177

so born c1777. That would make him aged 18 when he married Elizabeth Austen in 1795, which is feasible, however he was a widower at the time he married her, so that seems a bit unfortunate to have already lost a wife at that age.

Rather late baptism for John Hooker, showing parents as William and Elizabeth. Date of his birth is two weeks BEFORE his parents William Hooker and Elizabeth Austen married, so technically he was born an Austen.

Looks like AustinQ and safc are correct. Note the marriage of William and Elizabeth that safc posted also took place at St Mary's Petworth, where John is later baptised as a 6 yr old.

County Sussex
Place Petworth<<<<<<<<<<<
Church name St Mary<<<<<<<<<<<<
Register type Parish Register
Birth date 14 Jun 1795<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism date 28 Dec 1801<<<<<<<<<<
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname HOOKER
Person abode Tillington Parish
Transcribed by Charlotte Ryan
Credit CER
File line number 519

From freereg.

County Sussex
Place Petworth
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 26
Marriage date 30 Jun 1795<<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom forename William
Groom surname HOOKER
Groom parish Tillington
Groom condition widower
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname AUSTIN
Bride parish Otp
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 forename William
Witness1 surname POWELL
Witness2 forename William
Witness2 surname PULLIN
Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale
File line number 26

A sister to John?

County Sussex
Place Tillington
Church name All Hallows
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 259
Birth date 24 May 1797
Baptism date 25 Jun 1797
Person forename Hester
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Eliz:
Father surname HOOKER
Transcribed by Clare Grant
Credit Clare Grant
File line number 261

Sorry, the DC I've sent for is WILLIAM HOOKER who is hopefully my John's father.

I'm sending for what I hope is his DC in Q.4 1859 - fingers crossed there may be some clues on the Certificate. Will post results on here.

The John Hooker of Fittleworth is, very confusingly to say the least, a cousin of 'my' John Hooker. Fittleworth and Stopham are close together.
:-S :-S

Looks good Safc- nice find

????


William Hooker
England, Sussex, Parish Registers
Name William Hooker
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 30 Jun 1795
Event Place Petworth, Sussex, England
Gender Male
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Austen
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single

Luthy Bowers
England, Sussex, Parish Registers
Name John Austin
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 25 Aug 1815
Event Place Bury, Sussex, England
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Name Luthy Bowers
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single

A tree on ancestry has their first child as Lucy Austen Hooker b1819.

Did John also use the surname Austen/ Austin?

Baptism:

First name(s) Lucy
Last name Austin
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 05 Dec 1819
Residence Fittleworth, Sussex, England
Place Fittleworth
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Austin
Mother's first name(s) Lucy
_________________________

also this baptism:

First name(s) Elizth
Last name Austin(Alias Hooker)
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 15 Oct 1827
Residence Fittleworth, Sussex, England
Place Fittleworth
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Austin(Alias Hooker)
Mother's first name(s) Lucy
--------------------------------------

Also another possible child if he did use the surname Austin:

Baptism:
First name(s) William
Last name Austin
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1816
Baptism date 14 Jan 1816
Residence Tillington, Sussex, England
Place Tillington
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Austin
Mother's first name(s) Lucy

is this john's daughter's marriage

Other information in the record of Charles Blunden and Lucy Hooker
from England, Sussex, Parish Registers

Name: Charles Blunden
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Nov 1838
Event Place: Pulborough, Sussex, England
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1817
Father's Name: Robert Blunden
Spouse's Name: Lucy Hooker
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1819
Spouse's Father's Name: John Hooker

John Hooker
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Hooker
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 05 Sep 1824
Christening Date (Original): 05 SEP 1824
Christening Place: FITTLEWORTH,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Hooker
Mother's Name: Lucy

this is the only lucy bower i can find

Lucy Bower
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Thomas George Hough
Spouse's Name: Lucy Bower
Event Date: 14 Sep 1814
Event Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

John Hooker
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name: John Hooker
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Stopham, Sussex, England
Residence Note: Sharps
Gender: Male
Age: 45-49
Age (Original): 45
Birth Year (Estimated): 1792-1796
Birthplace: Sussex
Registration District: Thakeham
Parish: Stopham
County: Sussex
Page Number: 10
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1094/4
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Hooker Male 45-49 Sussex
Jane Hooker Female 45-49 Sussex
James Hooker Male 19-23 Sussex
John Hooker Male 17-21 Sussex
Charles Hooker Male 13 Sussex
Henry Hooker Male 11 Sussex
Edmund Hooker Male 9 Sussex
Amy Dalmon Female 18-22 Sussex

This man is my Great Great Great Grandfaher. His dob has been calculated as c.1796 from the various census records.

I know that his first wife was Lucy ?BOWERS? and that they had several children, all recorded.

Poor Lucy died shortly after the death of their last infant son.

John then remarried to a widow JANE DALMAN. All good so far.

However:-
1. My best efforts cannot find the marriage of John and Lucy which was PROBABLY in Stopham, Sussex. Their eldest child James Hooker was born c.1821 so that would be a guide for his parents' marriage?
2. John Hooker's father was William Hooker. I can't find any more information about either of his parents.
3. I can't unearth any details about the dob or parentage of his wife Lucy.

I do know various other details about John, i.e., that he was the Parish Clerk for 38 years and is buried at Stopham [sadly, no headstone]. I also know about the various offspring [Edmund, the youngest surviving child, is my Great Great Grandfather and one of my cousins has written a book about his siblings Charles and Henry], so I wouldn't want you to go chasing your valuable time down these lines of research!!

Any bright eyes out there, please? I'm stuck. :-|
THANK YOU.