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Does anyone have Thomas Spencer born about 1790 in Liverpool and married in 1809 to Elizabeth Ellis born around the same time in Ireland.
I have the marriage details but cannot find any thing more about Elizabeth.
Thanks for looking.

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There is also an Elizabeth Ellis born 1784 Killybegs, County Down too.

This gives her year of birth as 1788:-

Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name ELLIS
Birth year 1788
Marriage year 1809
Marriage date 19 Jul 1809
Parish Saint Nicholas
Spouse's first name Thomas
Spouse's last name Spencer
Bride's age 21
Bride's residence Liverpool
Bride's marital status Spinster
Groom's age 21
Groom's residence Liverpool, Lancaster, Chester
Groom's occupation Book Keeper<<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's marital status Batchelor
Place SAINT NICHOLAS
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kath. x

EDIT - thanks to Dea we now know that this Eliza in 1841 is Thomas's second wife.

The couple in the 1841 census? :-

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Richmond Row, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place

Gregory Doyle Male 45 1796 Ireland
Mary Doyle Female 35 1806 Lancashire, England
Agnes Doyle Female 11 1830 Lancashire, England
George Doyle Male 9 1832 Lancashire, England
Rosamond Doyle Female 8 1833 Lancashire, England
Amelia Doyle Female 5 1836 Lancashire, England
Gregory Doyle Male 3 1838 Lancashire, England
Thomas Spencer Male 50 1791 Lancashire, England, book keeper
Eliza Spencer Female 45 1796 Ireland

Kath. x

Could this be Elizabeth's baptism? :-

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Ellis
Birth year -
Baptism year 1787
Baptism date 27 Jun 1787
Parish St. Catherine's, Dublin City
Alternative parish names Meath St., St Catherine's, Meath Street
Diocese Dublin
County Dublin
Country Ireland
Father's first name(s) Thos
Father's last name Ellis
Mother's first name(s) Frans Mary Ann
Mother's last name Sheeran
Repository National Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland link http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633527#page/1/mode/1up
Register Baptism
Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Ireland

Kath. x

How do you know that Elizabeth was born in Ireland please?

Dea x

Possible marriage for the parents of the above Elizabeth:-

Record Transcription:
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First name(s) Thos Frans
Last name Ellis
Address -
Marriage year 1786
Marriage date 16 Apr 1786
Parish St. Catherine's, Dublin City
Alternative parish names Meath St., St Catherine's, Meath Street
Diocese Dublin
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Sherren
Spouse's address -
County Dublin
Country Ireland
Repository National Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland link
Register Marriage
Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Kath. x

The Eliza mentioned on the 1841 census above is NOT Elizabeth (nee Ellis) !

The 1st Elizabeth died in 1831:

DEATH:
Burial: 24 Aug 1831 Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Spencer -
Age: 43 years
Abode: Hawke Street
Buried by: M. R. Tetlow A.M. Offg. Minister
Register: Burials 1820 - 1836, Page 132, Entry 1049
Source: LDS Film 1656017



Eliza was Thomas's 2nd wife:

Marriage: 18 Jun 1837 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Spencer - Book Keeper, Liverpool
Eliza Gordon - Widow, Same Parish
Witness: Thomas Felton; Jane Emblen
Married by Banns by: Oliver Ormerod A. M, Curate
Register: Marriages 1835 - 1837, Page 292, Entry 2035
Source: LDS Film 93843

Dea x

The 1841 census gives her place of birth as Ireland.

Kath. x

Well spotted Dea - my mistake.

Kath. x

Possible baptism for Elizabeth if she was also from Liverpool (date would be right for the age at death in 1831):=

Record Transcription:
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Ellis
Gender Female
Birth year 1788
Birth place -
Baptism year 1788
Baptism date 09 Mar 1788
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Ellis
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kath. x

Wow, those were fast replies! Thank you all.
I found the 1841 census which said Elizabeth was from Ireland, but the 1861 one says Wavertree which is Liverpool.
I have a copy of the marriage entry for 1809 at St Nicholas, but doesn't give any other details.
From what I understand Elizabeth was the mother of Ann Jane Spencer who was my 2xgrt grandmother born 1828.

To Kath - the details you have fit perfectly, so thank you.
Thank you to everyone else also. :-)

Ann Jane's baptism - you may already have this of course:-

Record Transcription:
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Ann Jane
Last name Spencer
Gender Female
Birth year 1828
Birth place Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Baptism year 1828
Baptism date 10 Feb 1828
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Kath. x

Thanks for that Kath although I did have those details. I have the forward details regarding Ann Jane, but my main queries were surrounding Elizabeth.
Thank you for taking time for me. :-)