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Transatlantic voyages

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mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Aug 2018 19:02

I am looking for the trip details of 3 brother-in law and their families and parents-in-law
:
Thay are
1) James McCann 1879-1953
2) Robert Hackett 1876-1961
3) Thomas Scotson 1879-1943

Then, in 1920, Thomas & Margaret McCann


In 1911, James and Robert were not with their families in Wigan.
They did appear in Montana on the Us 1910 census.

Their landlord (another coal miner from Wigan who emigrated 20 y earlier) says James and Robert arrived 1909.
Did Dorothy and the kids join James in the US? When did they return to the UK?
(They have another kid in Wigan in 1915q3 and James dies in Wigan in 1953.)

Thomas Scotson arrives in the US, supposedly in 1911, but exactly when?
Thomas and Robert's families join them later. When? Did a hubby fetch them, or were they sent for?
It would seem Thomas went initially to Utah as Clifford Scotson was born in Clearcreek, Carbon Co UT (abt 80km SE of Provo) on 13/7/1913.
However, by 1920, Robert and Thomas were both living with their families who arrived pre-1914.

Nominal US census day was 1/1/1920. Thomas & Margaret McCann were not on the census, but Margt's obit says they arrived in 1920.
It's not clear whether they came direct to the US, or arrived via Canada.
Margt (1929) and Thomas (1943) died in Cascade Co MT and were buried in Sand Coulee Cemetery, Cascade Co MT.

The family details from the 1911 census are:
England and Wales Census, 1911
Event Place Wigan, Whelley Wigan, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Parish Wigan
Sub-District Wigan
Registration District Wigan
----------
Thomas Scotson Head M 30 Wigan, Lancashire
Hannah Scotson Wife F 29 Wigan, Lancashire
Harold Scotson Son M 5 Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Scotson Daughter F 4 Wigan, Lancashire
----------
Dorothy Mccann Boarder F 31 Wigan, Lancashire
William Mccann Son M 8 Wigan, Lancashire
Gladys Mccann Daughter F 6 Wigan, Lancashire
James Mccann Son M 4 Wigan, Lancashire
Albert Mccann Son M 1 Wigan, Lancashire
Florance Atherton Visitor F 23 Wigan, Lancashire


England and Wales Census, 1911
Event Place Wigan, Whelley Wigan, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Parish Wigan
Sub-District Wigan
Registration District Wigan
----------
Thomas Mccann Head M 58 Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Mccann Wife F 55 Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Mccann Daughter F 24 Wigan, Lancashire
Alice Hackett Daughter F 35 Wigan, Lancashire
Ellen Hackett Daughter F 12 Wigan, Lancashire
Annie Hackett Daughter F 9 Wigan, Lancashire
Robert Hackett Son M 7 Wigan, Lancashire


I would be grateful for any details of their trips, both UK incoming and outgoing, and US/Canada incoming.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2018 19:19

This looks like James arriving in USA:


James Mccann
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Arrival date:
10 Sep 1909
Birth Date:
abt 1879
Birth Location:
England
Birth Location Other:
wigan
Age:
30
Gender:
Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:
English
Port of Departure:
Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:
New York, New York
Ship Name:
Mauretania

He's heading to Montana to join friend John Hackett.
Nearest relative at home was Thomas McCann, 2107 Cumberland St., Whelley, Wigan.




MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2018 19:26

On same ship:


Robert Hackett
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Arrival date:
10 Sep 1909
Birth Date:
abt 1877
Birth Location:
England
Birth Location Other:
wiglen
Age:
32
Gender:
Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:
English
Port of Departure:
Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:
New York, New York
Ship Name:
Mauretania

Going to join brother John Hackett.




MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Aug 2018 19:50

There's this Listing under border crossings from Canada to USA. She's with Thomas & Margaret McCann . Nearest relative at home was James McCann, 18 Westmorland St., Wigan, son of Thomas & Margaret and uncle of Margaret Scotson. They're heading to Montana.


Margaret Scotson
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
Gender:
Female
Race/Nationality:
English
Age:
13
Record Type:
Manifests
Birth Date:
abt 1907
Birth Country:
England
Arrival date:
9 May 1920
Port of Arrival:
Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:
Melita
Residence Country:
England