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Christina McGilvray Clow

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Aug 2018 23:04

Strange! There doesn't seem to be any results for Tradeston. I've just looked up some of my family who came from there and they seem to be listed under Gorbals. Without looking at my tree, perhaps they had moved a few streets into the Gorbals district between 1901 and 1911.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 22:33

Re not finding Flora and Christina in 1911 -

it seems likely they were in Tradeston - but there appear to be no 1911 results at all for Tradeston on SP - not for any name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 22:24

Still at 78 Blackburn Street, on her own, in 1930:

Mrs. Flora Clow
in the Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name: Mrs. Flora Clow
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1930
Residence Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division: Glasgow


And still there in 1940:

Mrs. Flora Clow
in the Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name: Mrs. Flora Clow
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1940
Address: 867 [ actually 78 Blackburn Street ]
Residence Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division: Glasgow

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 22:20

Looks like Flora in 1918, living with a William Clow, seaman (presumably her son).

Address: 78 Blackburn Street, Tradeston.

Flora Clow
in the Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name: Flora Clow
Residence Year: 1918
Address: 947
Residence Place: Tradeston, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division: Tradeston

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 22:11

Unfortunately the Christina Clow in Dunbartonshire in 1911 isn't the right one.

This is the same family in 1901:


Christina Clow
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Christina Clow
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: William Clow
Mother's name: Janet Clow
Gender: Female
Where born: Strathblane, Stirling
Registration Number: 500
Registration district: New Kilpatrick
Civil Parish: New Kilpatrick
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 26 Fulton St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 87
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_171
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clow 32
Janet Clow 33
Robert Clow 7
Christina Clow 5
William Clow 3
Alex Chrisholm 7

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 21:56

Marriage relating to the info on the tree which Maddie found:

PARKER
CATHERINE
CLARK
NEIL
1938
644/8 1745
Blythswood


But still no middle name for Neil, so the only way to prove if he's the right Neil or not would be to spend some credits on SP to see the document.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Aug 2018 21:46

If her father had died and her mother widowed, it may be worth checking out the Poor Relief records. They are indexed and held in The Mitchell Library in Glasgow.

The only Christina Clow of the correct age in 1911 seems to be living with a Clow family in Dumbartonshire. I don't have credits for Scotlandspeople to check her place of birth. I am not seeing Flora on the 1911 census but perhaps she was Mistranscribed.

EDIT

Just noticed that Neil's birth was registered in both Blytheswood a St. Rollox districts. This would suggest that he was born in hospital. Before the days of the NHS this would have had to be paid for so definitely worth checking out the Poor Relief.

Presumably you have the birth certificate which would give the address where he was born and his mother's usual address. Who registered his birth please? Was it his grandmother, Flora? Is so, that may help locating her in 1911.

Could his father have been Neil Baker?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2018 11:50

Christina had two other brothers

Birth
CLOW
MALCOLM
M
1901
646/1 735
Plantation

Death
CLOW
MALCOLM
2
1903
646/1 295
Plantation


Birth
CLOW
DONALD
M
1903
646/1 424
Plantation

Death
CLOW
DONALD
0
1903
646/1 420
Plantation

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2018 16:07

The parents' deaths


CLOW
MALCOLM
38
1907
117/1 1
Snizort North

CLOW
FLORA
74
1939
644/16 536
Tradeston

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 16:07

This is the only Neil Clark death in Glasgow in 1977.

No middle name given, and no mms (there is mms given for most Scottish deaths after 1974):

CLARK
NEIL
63
1977
621/ 107
Glasgow, Park Circus

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Aug 2018 15:58

according to a tree on ancestry
neil baker "clark" died 1977 glasgow
spouse
catherine parker
two children born

but no documentry evidence

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 15:45

Was Neil adopted?
I can't see any record for him other than his birth.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2018 15:11

What are you asking, please?

If she didn't marry, and you know her child's name, plus her parents' details, there probably isn't any more to find out

From FMP for INFO

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22, Blackburn Street, Govan, Plantation, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Malcolm Clow Head Married Male 32 1869 Invernessshire, Scotland General Labourer Transcription
Flora Clow Wife Married Female 35 1866 Strath, Invernessshire, Scotland - Transcription
Mary A Clow Daughter - Female 5 1896 Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland - Transcription
William Clow Son - Male 3 1898 Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland - Transcription
Christy Clow Daughter - Female 2 1899 Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland -

Any other info will only be on SP

Mary Ann

Mary Ann Report 25 Aug 2018 15:02

Can anyone help with finding out more about Christina McGilvray Clow born 1899 in Glasgow - died 1921 in Govan, Glasgow. Her father was Malcolm Clow born 1867 - died 1906 - mother was Flora Clow nee McRae born 1865. Christina had a son in 1913 named Neil Baker Clow, father unkown. Any help would appreciated.