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Prisoner in 1901

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Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 29 Aug 2018 17:57

ok thanks for looking Erika - am just left wondering why now!

Researching:
Ball/Orme/Baker

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2018 16:20

No Court records on either FMP or Ancestry

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 29 Aug 2018 16:14

Thank you , I did not see the first page - must be Winson Green prison in Birmingham. I wondered if there was an explanation of why he would be in the prison I did look for newspaper reports but could not find anything. Thanks for help.

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Ball/Orme/Baker

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2018 16:09

H M Prison, Birmingham - per the first page of the record.

Nowadays called Winson Green.

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of archives, though - certainly not lists of all prisoners and their crimes:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F120041

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2018 16:05

Have looked for him and found on FMP

First name(s) John
Last name Cooper
Relationship Prisoner
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Age 39
Birth year 1862
Birth town Birmingham
Birth town as transcribed BIRMINGHAM
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Warwickshire
Birth county as transcribed WARWICKSHIRE
Occupation Bricklayer's Labourer
House name -
House number -
Street -
Town -
Parish Birmingham
Country England
County Warwickshire
Municipal ward All Saints
Registration district Birmingham
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2853

So, Birmingham prison, one assumes, but, to be certain, call up the image and work backwards to the first page for the jail. There MAY be info, but ......................

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Aug 2018 16:02

You need someone with Ancestry to answer you as Findmypast is down for maintenance today.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2018 16:01

Where is he in 1901?

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 29 Aug 2018 15:55

I have John Cooper born c 1862 B'ham shown on the 1901 Census as a prisoner can anyone help with an explanation and which prison - please

Researching:
Ball/Orme/Baker