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Thank you Argyllgran I'll look into that.
Sorry not to have replied sooner have had a family bereavement.

Carole

So it's possible that Stephen from Stony Stratford might be the correct one.

In case he is, I'll post some more.


I think this is Stephen's marriage to Elizabeth:

Elizabeth Simpson
mentioned in the record of Stephen Anderson and Elizabeth Simpson
Name Stephen Anderson
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Simpson
Event Date 27 Dec 1840
Event Place Kingston-Upon-Hull, York, England
Father's Name Thomas Anderson
Spouse's Father's Name William Hannah
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed


This could perhaps be the birth of the Elizabeth's daughter Eliza, listed in 1841 census as "not born in county":

Eliza Hey Simpson
England Births and Christenings
Name Eliza Hey Simpson
Gender Female
Christening Date 05 Jun 1831
Christening Date (Original) 05 JUN 1831
Christening Place SELBY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Henry Simpson
Mother's Name Elizabeth


I know that John and Emma (listed in 1851 census) have mms Simpson even though Elizabeth's maiden surname appears to have been Hannah.

I don't see the birth of Clara or Harriott, but this looks like Clara's marriage:

Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
Devonshire George Northampton 3b 115
Simpson Clara Northampton 3b 115


Clara in 1861:

Clara Devonshire
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Clara Devonshire
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Devonshire
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Northampton St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 937
Folio: 100
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George Devonshire 31
Clara Devonshire 27

(Address: 19 Lower Grafton Street )

They were still living at that address until at least 1891, with several children.
By 1911 Clara was widowed and living with son William (a clicker, like his stepfather Stephen) at 19 Arundel Street.
She died in Northampton in 1914.

Thank you Argyllgran and Sylvain for the info.
I did look in my records yesterday to see where I got 1790 from and couldn't find any notes.
I did wonder if at sometime I had seen the baptism and assumed the year from that.
It is also possible that I got the info. from a relative, I'm just not sure .

Carole

Yes, I know, Sylvia.

Carole, why do you think he was born c1790?
His 1818 marriage record gives no age. Have you found a date somewhere else?

Death in 1883 with age (??accurate or estimated) of 86 = birth year of ca 1797.

Which means he would have been about 14/15 if that is his baptism in 1812, and about 21 when he married Mary in 1818.

At the time of Sarah Ann's baptism in 1824, Stephen was a cordwainer.

I don't know if this is the same Stephen below - but will post it in case.
Maybe Stephen and Mary separated around the time of Sarah Ann's birth:

In 1826, a shoemaker named Stephen Anderson lived in Wellington Street in Northampton, with a Thomas Anderson, also a shoemaker.

Stephen Anderson
in the UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893
Name: Stephen Anderson
Poll Year: 1826
Parish or Rectory: Northampton

Stephen was still there in Wellington Street in 1837.


Stephen Anderson married Sarah Fox in 1824:

Stephen Anderson
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1912
Name: Stephen Anderson
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1824
Marriage Place: Northampton, All Saints, Northamptonshire, England
Register Type: Parish Registers
Parish as it Appears: Northampton, All Saints
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Spouse: Sarah Toy [Fox ]


They had daughters Ann and Elizabeth, born Wellington Street, Northampton.

Elizabeth Anderson
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
birth:
29 April 1825
Wellington Street, Northampton, Northamptonshire
father: Stephen Anderson
mother: Sarah Anderson

Ann Anderson
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
birth:
14 November 1836
Wellington Street, Northampton, Northamptonshire
father: Stephen Anderson
mother: Sarah Anderson


By 1841 Stephen was married to an Elizabeth.

Stephen Anderson
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Stephen Anderson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Giles
Hundred: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
Neighbors:
Piece: 814
Book: 18
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Anderson 40 - shoemaker
Elizabeth Anderson 35
Elizabeth Anderson 15
Ann Anderson 4
Eliza Simpson 10
Harriott Simpson 5
Clara Simpson 5


And in 1851 -
John and Emma's mms was Simpson.

Stephen's a clicker.

Boot and shoe clicker - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_and_shoe_clicker
A boot and shoe clicker is the person who cuts the uppers for boots or shoes from a skin of leather or piece of man-made material (usually from a bulk roll). This includes all components of the upper, including linings, facings, stiffeners, reinforcements for eyelets and zip-protectors.

Stephen Anderson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Stephen Anderson
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Anderson
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoney Stratton, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wollaston
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Earls Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 1743
Folio: 184
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Anderson 53 - clicker
Elizabeth Anderson 46 - Cheadle, Staffs.
Ann Anderson 14
John Anderson 9
Emma Anderson 4


ANDERSON, EMMA mms SIMPSON
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 301


This is the nearest birth I can find for Stephen - but only if "birth date" means "christening date", and he was about 14 when christened:

Stephen Anderson
England Births and Christenings
Name Stephen Anderson
Residence Place Stony Stratford, Buckingham, England
Gender Male
Birthplace Stony Stratford, Buckingham, England
Birth Date 30 Dec 1812
Father's Name Thomas Anderson
Mother's Name Elizabeth


Possible death of wife Sarah:

ANDERSON, SARAH 42
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 219 Order


Stephen and Elizabeth are in all censuses up to their deaths:

Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%)
ANDERSON Elizabeth 75 Wellingbro' 3b 98

Deaths Mar 1883 (>99%)
Anderson Stephen 86 Wellingborough 3b 92

Thanks Erica

That's the correct family.
I have tracked the descendants but still can't find Stephen's death.
I've even checked Ellis Island site just in case he left the family.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

jJohn Woor Head Married Male 48 1803 Cordwainer Hadleigh, Norfolk, England
Mary Woor Wife Married Female 50 1801 Shoe Binder Northamptonshire, England
Robert J Jones Grand Son - Male 17 1834 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England

This is the Woor's on the 1841 census
Mary Woor
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name: Mary Woor
Titles and Terms: NULL
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Residence Note: Fleet Street
Gender: Female
Age: 40-44
Age (Original): 40
Occupation: Null
Birth Year (Estimated): 1797-1801
Registration District: Ashton & Oldham
Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Lancashire
Page Number: 33
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 532/19
Affiliate Record Type: Institution
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
John Woor
Male
39-43
Mary Woor
Female
40-44
Kezia Anderson
Female
22-26
Sarah Ann Anderson
Female
17-21
Mary Anderson
Female
0
Lancashire
Mary Ann Jones
Female
21-25
Robert Jones
Male
2
Lancashire
Ann Jones
Female
0
Lancashire

First name(s) MARY
Last name ANDERSON
Marriage year 1829
Marriage day 14
Marriage month Dec
Marriage place PETERBOROUGH ST JOHN
Parish Peterborough St John
Marital status B
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Woor
Spouse's title -
Spouse's parish Peterborough St John
Spouse's marital status W
Event Type Marriage
By Banns or licence Banns
County Northamptonshire

It was 14th December 1829 at St John the Baptist in Peterborough

i'm not finding that marriage of mary to john woor 1929

Maybe Stephen didn't die and Mary just said she was a widow. She wouldn't be the first bigamist in this family but then surely her daughters would know.

they dont seem to give the births reg only stated 1837 century only baptism's

Thanks Malyon

Maybe it was a late baptism.

only finding one stephen born 1790 in cambridgeshire so could he have married again


Name: Stephen Anderson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: St Clement, Cambridgeshire, England
Residence Note: Clement Place
Gender: Male
Age: 50-54
Age (Original): 50
Birth Year (Estimated): 1787-1791
Birthplace: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Cambridge
Parish: St Clement
County: Cambridgeshire
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 86/3
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Stephen Anderson Male 50-54 Cambridgeshire
Cathrine Anderson Female 50-54 Cambridgeshire
Stephen Austin Male 20-24
Ann Austin Female 25-29 Cambridgeshire

no not him this must be that stephen's marriage to catherine

Name Events Relationships View
Stephen Anderson
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 1812 Chatteris, Cambs, Eng
spouse: Catherine King

HI Malyon

It does look likely that that is the correct baptism.
I have looked 1824-29 for a death but haven't found anything.
Thanks for looking.

Carole

stephen was still alive in 1824

Name: Sarah Ann Anderson
Residence Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 18 Aug 1824
Christening Date (Original): 18 Aug 1824
Christening Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Stephen Anderson
Mother's Name: Mary

Stephen Anderson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Stephen Anderson
Residence Place: Chatteris, Cambridge, England
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Jun 1790
Christening Date (Original): 29 Jun 1790
Christening Place: Chatteris, Cambridge, England
Father's Name: Edwd. Anderson
Mother's Name: Ann Anderson

Thanks safc

That's the correct Stephen.
Some entries have Mary's name as Bristow as well as Bristor.