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1861 census lookup please.

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Helen

Helen Report 3 Oct 2018 14:51

Jane Ashurst born Aspull,Wigan Lancs 1845 was the daughter of Jane Ashurst and baptised at All Saints Wigan.Iam trying to find out if she had any siblings and also details of her mother also called Jane.When she married James Pollit in 1864 she said that her father was John Livsey a carter.Thank you.Helen.

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Oct 2018 15:01

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Chapel Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England
What can I do with this record?

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Ashurst Head W Female 34 1817 - Aspull, Lancashire, England
William Ashurst Son - Male 13 1838 Drawer In Coal Pet Aspull, Lancashire, England
Thomas Ashurst Son - Male 10 1841 Hooker On Coal Pit Aspull, Lancashire, England
James Ashurst Son - Male 9 1842 Door Tenter Pit Aspull, Lancashire, England
Jane Ashurst Daur - Female 5 1846 - Aspull, Lancashire, England
John Ashurst Son - Male 1 1850 - Wigan, Lancashire, England
Caroline Nk Lodger - Female 20 1831 - Ireland
Jane Ashurst's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.

Helen

Helen Report 3 Oct 2018 15:05

Thank you Maddie for your help.Helen.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Oct 2018 15:11

On the 1871 census James & Jane Pollitt have living with them Jane's mother, Jane Ashursts, 57 and her brother John Ashursts, 21.

Helen

Helen Report 3 Oct 2018 15:21

Thank you Margaret for your help.Yes I have them in 1871,they go to Yorshire and 3 children are born there,then they return to Wigan.Helen

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 15:31

1861 for Jane, the mother.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

10, Ironmonger Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Ashurst Head Widow Female 48 1813 ... Aspull, Lancashire, England
William Ashurst Son Married Male 27 1834 Coal Miner Aspull, Lancashire, England
John Ashurst Son - Male 12 1849 Coal Miner Wigan, Lancashire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Oct 2018 15:34

????
Jane
Last name Ashurst
Gender Female
Birth year 1845
Birth place -
Baptism year 1845
Baptism date 05 Oct 1845
Place Wigan
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name Ashurst
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Jane
Last name Ashurst
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 28 Dec 1817
Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England
Place Wigan
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Henry
Father's last name Ashurst
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

ASHURST, JOHN - Order
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 933

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 15:40

Is this Jane's baptism perhaps?

Baptism: 5 Oct 1845 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Ashurst - Daur. of Jane Ashurst
Born: 30 Aug
Abode: Aspull
Baptised by: John Lomas Curate
Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1848, Page 47, Entry 372
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives


Helen

Helen Report 3 Oct 2018 15:56

Yes that is Jane's baptism, from that record it would appear that her mother Jane was not married, yet it says on some censuses that she is a widow!!.Thanks everyone for looking.Helen.

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Oct 2018 16:02

Marriage: 8 Aug 1864 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Pollet - (X), 24, Collier, Bachelor, Hallgate
Jane Ashurst - (X), 18, Spinster, Hallgate
Groom's Father: George Higham, Bleacher
Bride's Father: John Livsey, Carter
Witness: James Baunder; Sarah Hughes
Married by Banns by: Edwd.H.Aldridge Curate
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1865, Page 218, Entry 436
Source: LDS Film 1885698

only combination of ashurst / livsey on lancs opc

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Oct 2018 16:13

if baptism for jane born 1817 is corect she has several siblings
Ann Ashurst - first Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 6 Apr
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Notes: [Mother's maiden name not recorded]
Mother's Parents: Charles & Margaret
Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 273
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 19 Nov 1815 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England
John Ashurst - Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: Revd. Jno. Bird A.B. Curate
Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 71, Entry 566
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Baptism: 28 Dec 1817 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Ashurst - 3 Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary -------------------
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: Benjn. Powell Curate
Register: Baptisms 1816 - 1819, Page 160, Entry 1273
Source: LDS Film 1885676

Baptism: 2 Apr 1820 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Reuben Ashurst - 3 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 12 Mar
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: Ben. Powell
Register: Baptisms 1819 - 1822, Page 73, Entry 581
Source: LDS Film 1885676

Baptism: 7 Jul 1822 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Esther Ashurst - 4 Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 15 Jun
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: G. Goodwill Curate
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1825, Page 5, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1885677

Baptism: 12 Nov 1826 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Ashurst - 5 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 1 Oct
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1827, Page 199, Entry 1585
Source: LDS Film 1885677

Baptism: 3 Jul 1830 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Ashurst - 6 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 9 Jun
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate
Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1830, Page 277, Entry 2213
Source: LDS Film 1885677

Baptism: 18 Nov 1832 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ashurst - 7 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary
Born: 9 Sep
Abode: Orrell
Occupation: Nailor
Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 235, Entry 1873
Source: LDS Film 1885678

Marriage: 12 Oct 1807 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Henry Ashurst - (X), Orrell
Mary Hooton - (X), Orrell
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Ellen Birchall, (X)
Married by Banns by: George Bridgeman Rector
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 193, Entry 669
Source: LDS Film 1885690

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 16:44

???

Baptism: 9 Oct 1841 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Ashurst - 3d. Son of John Ashurst & Jane
Born: 8 Oct
Abode: Aspull
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Charles Bisset Curate
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 312, Entry 2495
Source: LDS Film 1885679


ASHALL, JAMES FLETCHER Order
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 685

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 19:52

???? I know the surname is not correct but I can't find births for the other children.

Baptism: 5 Oct 1834 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Ashall - 1 Son of John Ashall & Jane
Born: 4 Sep
Abode: Aspull
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: H. O'Neill
Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1836, Page 126, Entry 1006
Source: LDS Film 1885678

Baptism: 28 May 1839 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Ashall - 2d. Son of John Ashall & Jane
Born: 21 May
Abode: Aspull
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Charles Bisset Curate
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 54, Entry 426
Source: LDS Film 1885679

ASHALL, THOMAS FLETCHER Order
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in WIGAN UNION LANCASHIRE Volume 21 Page 796



Marriage: 23 Feb 1834 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Ashall - (X), Wigan Parish
Jane Fletcher - (X), Wigan Parish
Witness: Wm. Crawford; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: J. K. Glazebrrok
Register: Marriages 1833 - 1835, Page 134, Entry 402
Source: LDS Film 1885692



Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Vigo Row, Wigan, Lancashire, England


Year of census: 1851
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Ashall Male 25 1816 Lancashire, England
Jane Ashall Female 25 1816 Lancashire, England
William Ashall Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England
Thomas Ashall Male 2 1839 Lancashire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 20:29

Possible death for John snr?

ASHURST, JOHN 34 Order
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 604


and the birth of John jnr? MMN is Fletcher.

ASHURST, JOHN FLETCHER Order
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 775

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Oct 2018 20:54

Jane's birth?


First name(s) JANE
Last name ASHURST
Birth year 1845
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Wigan
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume XXI
Page 796


and her mother Jane?


Baptism: 21 Dec 1816 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Fletcher - 4 Daur. of Giles Fletcher & Elizabeth
Born: 13 Nov
Abode: Aspull
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Edwd. Hill
Register: Baptisms 1816 - 1819, Page 67, Entry 530
Source: LDS Film 1885676

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Oct 2018 12:34

This is the only John Livsey I can find who is a carter. He married Jane Taylor in 1850.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

1, New Springs, Halliwell, Bolton, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Livsey Head Married Male 34 1827 Carter Or Carrier Claton Green Lancashire, England
Jane Livsey Wife Married Female 28 1833 Claton Lancashire, England
Mary Livsey Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Peter Livsey Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England
John Livsey Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Jane Livsey Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Emma Livsey Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Halliwell, Lancashire, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

New Spring Cottages, Halliwell, Bolton, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Livesey Head - Male 48 1823 Carter, Walton-le-Dale Lancashire, England
Jane Livesey Wife - Female 43 1828 Leyland Lancashire, England
Mary Livesey Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Lancashire, England
Peter Livesey Son - Male 17 1854 - Lancashire, England
John Livesey Son - Male 15 1856 - Lancashire, England
Jane Livesey Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Lancashire, England
Emma Livesey Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Lancashire, England
Annie M Livesey Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Lancashire, England
Frances A Livesey Son - Male 5 1866 - Lancashire, England
Teresa Ann Livesey Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Lancashire, England
Wilfred Livesey Son - Male 0 1871 - Lancashire, England