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The above was the son of William Albert Gibson, a miner, according to his marriage certificate when he married Jane Ellen Lees 15 Sep 1929 at St Mary, Lambeth. His occupation was recorded as Private 1st Battalion Scots Guards. I guess this means that he was a professional soldier and wonder if he was born in Scotland or at least the north of England?
After their marriage I can find no more records for them, other than the birth of a son in 1930 at Lambeth?
It might be that he was in fact Alfred Howell Gibson b 6 Sep 1904 but his parents were John William Gibson born in Bishop Auckland and Lavinia Howell born Normanton.
Alfred's wife Jane E passed away June 1933 Auckland aged 22.
Confused.com!
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What was his occupation onhis sons birth cert

What about on the wife's death cert does that give any helpful info

Have you found the parents on the 1901 and 1911 census

The Scottish one is on Ancestry but the 1911 is only available on Scotlands People which isn't a subs site

If he were born in Scotland & didn’t have a middle name, there are these potential births

GIBSON
ALFRED
M
1907
168/2 1573
St Machar

GIBSON
ALFRED
M
1907
672/ 161
Uphall

GIBSON
ALFRED
M
1908
030/ 19
Stromness

I’d searched 1906-1908 to cover fibbing & a late 1907 birth.

Have you looked for the son in 1939?

Alfred W registered in AMJ 1930

alfred howell gibson was in the scots guards

Alfred Howell
Last name Gibson
Service number 2692355
Age 22
Birth year 1905
Birth county Yorkshire
Birth country England
Birth county as transcribed Yorkshire
Attestation year 1927
Rank -
Regiment Scots Guards
Archive Trustees of the Scots Guards Charitable Fund
Series title Scots Guards Enlistment Registers, 1799-1939
Source Scots Guards enlistment registers
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

Gibson Alfred Howell 1904 1976 1976 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Worthing, Sussex, England

1939 ???
99 Becket Road , Worthing M.B., Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alfred H Gibson 06 Sep 1904 Male Sr General Labourer Married 218 5
David Riddles 22 Dec 1869 Male Boot Repairer (Retired) Married 218 1
Annie Riddles 12 May 1867 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid Married 218 2
Ethel Janman 17 Nov 1900 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid Married 218 3
Edward G Janman 11 Aug 1900 Male Unemployed Single 218 4
Lily Gibson 08 Dec 1901 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid Married 218 6

You probably have this already:

1911 Census For England & Wales

25 Stanley Pit Crook, Crook and Billy Row, Durham, England

John William Gibson Head Married Male 31 1880 Miner Hewer Coal Bishop Auckland Durham
Lavinia Gibson Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Normanton Yorkshire
Alfred Howell Gibson Son - Male 6 1905 - Middlesbro Yorkshire
Joseph Edwin Gibson Son - Male 3 1908 - Middlesbro Yorkshire
Raymond Gibson Son - Male 0 1911 - Stanley Auckland Parish

The marriage, which was crossed out and marked 'cancelled' has the father as William Albert Gibson, a miner:

Name: Alfred Gilson
Marriage Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1907
Marriage Date: 4 Aug 1929
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: William Albert Gilson
Spouse: Jane Ellen Lees

There is a civil entry for the marriage - maybe they went to the register office instead?

Marriages Sep 1929
Gibson Alfred Lees Lambeth 1d 663
Lees Jane E Gibson Lambeth 1d 663

EDIT: The cancelled marriage was Aug 4th, they did marry on 15th Sept.
Witnesses were William H Lees and H W Rosser. Bridegroom said to be 22 years old.

The military record Maddie found shows his birthplace to be Middlesborough, Yorks, which ties in with census 1911.

He attested at Durham, and was a miner when he enlisted.

He was discharged L'don 14.8.1939.

Alfred's birth from the GRO:

GIBSON, ALFRED HOWELL HOWELL
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 509

Parents marriage:

Marriages Jun 1901

GIBSON John William Middlesbro' 9d 1124
HOWELL Lavinia Middlesbro' 9d 1124

But I believe you have this already and it doesn't help find Alfred after 1930...

If he was discharged in Aug 1939, could he have been called up later from the Reserves? There's no death recorded on the CWGC site.

IF the 1939 reg posted above is correct

ALFRED H
Last name GIBSON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1938
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


ALFRED H GIBSON married one of these people

Lily Riddles
Spouse's last name Riddles
District Worthing
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Volume as transcribed 2B
Page number 1012

LILY
Last name GIBSON
Gender Female
Birth day 8
Birth month 12
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1985
District Worthing
Register number 285
County Sussex
Volume 18
Page 3167

two children born 1939 and 1943 in worthing

The date on the 1939 register tallies with the birthdate of the Alfred Howell Gibson who died in Sussex:

Name
Alfred Howell Gibson
Birth
06/09/1904<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Death
09/1976 Worthing West Sussex England

Finally found the son, living with his grandparents in 1939 - they are the parents of Alfred Howell Gibson as per the 1911 census, so looks like we are right that Alfred Howell Gibson is the correct man, despite the variation in his age and his father's name on the 1929 marriage register.

Name: Alfred W Gibson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1930
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 48 Back Hope St.
Residence Place: Crook and Willington, Durham, England
Occupation: At school
Schedule Number: 48
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: FGRJ
Registration district: 547/2

Other occupants:

Name: John W Gibson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1880
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 48 Back Hope St.
Residence Place: Crook and Willington, Durham, England
Occupation: General handyman labourer
Schedule Number: 48
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FGRJ
Registration district: 547/2
Inferred Spouse: Lavinia Gibson

Name: Lavinia Gibson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1877
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 48 Back Hope St.
Residence Place: Crook and Willington, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid domestic wife
Schedule Number: 48
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FGRJ
Registration district: 547/2
Inferred Spouse: John W Gibson

Name: Ernest J Keay
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1925
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 48 Back Hope St.
Residence Place: Crook and Willington, Durham, England
Occupation: At school
Schedule Number: 48
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: FGRJ
Registration district: 547/2

Name: Alfred J Whittingstall
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1925
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 48 Back Hope Street
Residence Place: Crook and Willington, Durham, England
Occupation: At school
Schedule Number: 48
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: FGRJ
Registration district: 547/2

EDIT: had been looking for the son in 1939 since Erika suggested it, but hadn't found him at first.

Births Jun 1930 Gibson Alfred W Lees Lambeth 1d 259

and his death:

Name: Alfred William Gibson
Death Age: 44
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1930<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Date: Dec 1974
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1212
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He may have married in the Worthing district in 1962 and had 3 offspring born in the same area in the '60s ( not an uncommon name so hard to be sure).

Thank you very much all for your excellent research. Seem as if he is my Alfred but must have been muddled when he gave his father's name at his marriage.
Regards,
John

At least he got the occupation - miner, right! :-)

Also, Alfred Howell Gibson had been a miner at the time he attested for the military, and he attested at Durham, where the family were in census 1911, not sure why he got his own age wrong at the first marriage either, unless he didn't want to seem like a cradlesnatcher.