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Help with my Hubbles, John Hubble.

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Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 10:41

Hi. I have a George Hubble born in Marylebone 16/6/1839 to a John Hubble and Jane Lucas. They married in 1839 but she was widow who's first married name was Maloney/Molony. On the cert it confirms his father's name as also John and her father as William, but I cannot confirm any further back than that. I have John and Jane in the 1841 census, John aged 30 and Jane (says Lacas on the index) aged 40, as servants in Hampstead which gives John's DOB roughly 1811. But there are lots of John Hubbles and I have no way of narrowing them down. I believe he did re marry a Mary Ester Booth in 1862 and died in 1869. Any suggestions of where I can look, how i can find more information would be gratefully received. Thank you so much for your help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 10:43

It shouid give his place of birth on the 1851 census

Don't forget ages for adults on the 1841 are rounded to the nearest 5 years. So he could be 32rounded down or 26plus rounded up

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 10:55

So they are both servants

Not born in county

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Name: John Hubble
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St John Hampstead
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 674
Book: 7
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Uriah Bidgood 75
Jane Alexander 45
John Hubble 30
Jane Lacas 40
Esther Hogg 25
Sarah Linnell 25
Eliza Thompson 30


So are they pretending not to be married ???

Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 10:58

I haven't been able to find them on the 1851 census but now I know about the variation in his dob, I can try again. Thank you much.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 11:04

????


Name: John Hubble
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Jul 1813
Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, England
Father: Joseph Hubble
Mother: Ann Hubble

Fathers occ looks like sevt i.e. Servant

Edit :Nope I forgot his father was named as John Hubble a gardener

Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 11:13

Yes funny as on 1841 as unmarried, maybe it was not allowed for servants . Their child, George B1839 is living with others as George Lucas. I look at these thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Nov 2018 11:17

What happened to George?

HUBBLE, GEORGE LUCAS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01 Page 200

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 11:19

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: John Hubble
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 223
So put his yob c1809 if he had had a birthday that year

Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 11:21

His father was John, it was Janes father who was William. Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 11:24

Yes I corrected it was going around in circles

So he wasn't born in county so maybe

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 No Image

Name: John Hubble
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Aug 1809
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1809
Baptism Place: East Malling,Kent,England
Father: John Hubble
Mother: Fanny
FHL Film Number: 992508



Name: John Hubble
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Sep 1806
Marriage Place: East Malling,Kent,England
Spouse: Fanny Gower
FHL Film Number: 992508

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 11:39

Unfortunately its the West Maiing lunatic asylum
1841 census
John Hubble
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: West Malling
Hundred: Larkfield
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: gardener !!!!!!!

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Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 460
Book: 2
Folio: 65
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2018 11:41

Name: John Hubble
Spouse's Name: June Maloney
Marriage Date: Sep 1839
Marriage Place: Tunbridge, Kent, England

A SERVANT

????
Name: Jane Hubble
Age: 57
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1796
Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 15 Nov 1853
Burial Place: All Souls, Kensal Green, Kensington and Chelsea, England

JOHN
Last name HUBBLE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1862
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


JOHN HUBBLE married one of these people

Mary Esther Booth, Amelia Hollocombe
District St. George Hanover Square
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 519

Name: John Hubble
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Hubble
Gender: Male
Where born: Sevenoaks, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sevenoaks
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 55
Piece: 488
Folio: 62
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hubble 57
Mary Hubble 58

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 11:43

Fanny maybe
1841 census
Fanny Hubble
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: East Malling
Hundred: Larkfield
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 460
Book: 1
Folio: 22
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Hubble 65
William Hubble 25
Mary Hubble 9

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2018 12:31

???????
John
Last name Hubble
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1780
Baptism date 20 Feb 1780
Place East Malling
County Kent
Country England
Father's first name(s) George --------
Father's last name Hubble
Mother's first name(s) Lydia

Fanny
Last name Hubble
Birth year 1777
Residence East Malling Mill Street
Age at death 79
Burial year 1856
Burial date 19 Jan 1856
Place East Malling
County Kent
Country England
Record source East Malling burials 1570-1924 (Gaps 1643-6 and 1684-1694) includes burials at Holy Trinity, New Hythe c1864-1924
Record set Kent Burials

Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 12:57

Thank you so much for all your help. Its given me lots to work through. I had found a Andrews newspaper entry for John and Jane's marriage, the entry says John Hubble, Marylebone 1839. Then there is another entry underneath for 1837 for Tonbridge so not sure if that is another person? I have not seen Andrews entries before so not sure how they are set out. What do you think. Just wish I had hard facts! Thank you so much.

Deborah

Deborah Report 10 Nov 2018 13:22

I can follow their son George Lucas who is then George Hubble and goes to sea in 1850.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Nov 2018 16:02



For INFO

Name: John Hubble
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Jul 1839
Marriage Place: St Mary, Bryanston Square, Westminster, England
Father: John Hubble******************Occ: Gardener
Spouse: Jane Molony******************Occ: Cordwainer
Father: William Lucas

Name: Jane Hubble
Age: 57
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1796
Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 15 Nov 1853
Burial Place: All Souls, Kensal Green, Kensington and Chelsea, England

HUBBLE, JANE 57
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 316

Her death cert should include a reference to her husband - either 'wife of' of 'widow of'

Name: Jane Lucas
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1797
Baptism Date: 22 Sep 1797
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: William Lucas
Mother: Elizth

Deborah

Deborah Report 12 Nov 2018 11:23

Thank you

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Nov 2018 11:31

Jane Hubble

in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003

Name: Jane Hubble
Age: 57
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1796
Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 15 Nov 1853
Burial Place: All Souls, Kensal Green, Kensington and Chelsea, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2018 11:43

Already posted