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Edward J Evans 1871 census

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Tawny

Tawny Report 28 Dec 2018 11:36

I am struggling to find to find Edward J Evans on the 1871 census and wondered if anyone else could?

I am still trying to pin down his birth but according to the 1881 and 1891 census his birth would be around 1852/53 and he gives his place of birth on one census as London/Middlesex.

Thanks to the fact that he and his wife Ellen/Helen Maskell 1851/52 had all their children in Scotland I can give their exact marriage date as August 3rd 1873, Kensington, London. All children’s birth certificates from then have their parents marriage date included.

On the 1881 census Edward has brother Arthur L. Evans who is 16 living with him. Edward is a Hairdresser/Barber on every census I’ve found him on.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Dec 2018 11:45

The marriage record gives their address as 3 Barasdon? St., his father is Arthur Linder Evans, an inspector in the post office. Her father John Maskell a carman.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2018 11:55

Name: Edward Evans
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1873
Marriage Place: St Clement, Notting Hill, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Arthur Linder Evans
Spouse: Ellen Maskell
Register Type: Parish Register

???
O L Evans
in the 1871 England Census

Name: O L Evans
[Arthur Linder Evans]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 133
Piece: 6
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
O L Evans 45 - Server? @ Govt Post Office
Ann Evans 44
Edwin Evans 18
Albert F Evans 13
Arthur E Evans 7
Reginald E Evans 4
Walter S Evans 1
Emma Evans 12
Jessie Evans 19
Alexandra Evans 8
Elizabeth M Evans 57
Georgina Dack 21

Wife born Haddenham Berks, all children Paddington....but no Edward J

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2018 11:58

Probate

Name: Arthur Linder Evans
Death Date: 21 Jan 1893
Death Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Probate Date: 6 Feb 1893
Registry: London, England

of 4 Kensington High St, Brighton to Ann Evans, widow. £151 4s

Tawny

Tawny Report 28 Dec 2018 12:01

Thank you both for looking. I’ll need to see if more digging on these lines can find him.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2018 12:02

His baptism

Name: Arthur Linder Evans
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1826
Baptism Place: Lambeth St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, England
Father: Edward Evans - shoe maker
Mother: Harriet Evans
of Chapel St, Edgeware Rd, Marylebone,

Can find them on 1841 & 1851 but not 1861. Edward J Evans still missing!

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Dec 2018 12:04

1881 ????????
in the 1881 Scotland Census
1881 Scotland Census No Image

Name: Edward Evans
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil Parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 16 W Princes St
Occupation: Barber (Employing 2 Boys)
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 62
LINE: 7
Roll: cssct1881_148
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Evans 28
Helen Evans 29
Arthur L Evans 2
Elizh M Evans 8 M
Arthur L Evans 16

1891
Name: Edward Evans
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ellen Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Registration Number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil Parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 151 E Cyde St
Occupation: Hairdresser
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 59
LINE: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_163
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Evans 38
Ellen Evans 39
Arhur Evans 12
Elizabeth Evans 10
Edward Evans 8
Alfred Evans 6
Victor Evans 3
Albert Evans 1
Alex Hutchieson 20
Annie McGregor 35
Margaret Campbell 70

malyon

malyon Report 28 Dec 2018 12:10

Edward Evans
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008





Name: Edward Evans
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1852
Registration District: Chelsea
County: London
Event Place: Chelsea, London, England
Volume: 1A
Page: 146
Affiliate Line Number: 20

malyon

malyon Report 28 Dec 2018 12:20


Births Sep 1852
Evans Edward Kensington 1a 23

Births Sep 1853 (>99%)
EVANS Edward Chelsea 1a 131

Tawny

Tawny Report 28 Dec 2018 12:20

Thank you both. That is the family in the 1881 and 1891 census. I’ll order that birth certificate to confirm but it looks promising.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Dec 2018 12:37

to confirm
EVANS, EDWARD BETTS Order
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in KENSINGTON, PADDINGTON, AND FULHAM Volume 01A Page 23 Order

EVANS, WALTER SIDNEY BETTS Order
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 8 Order

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Dec 2018 12:45

re the 1871 census found by +++DetEcTive+++ Could Edwin be the elusive Edward? Occupation is hard to make out but looks like boatmaker? Surely not?


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Norfolk Road, Paddington, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

A L Evans Head - Male 45 1826 - Middlesex, England
- Evans Wife - Female 44 1827 - Buckinghamshire, England
Edwin Evans Son - Male 18 1853 - Middlesex, England
Albert F Evans Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
Arthur E Evans Son - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England
Reginald E Evans Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England
Walter S Evans Son - Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, England
Emma Evans Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Middlesex, England
Jessie Evans Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Middlesex, England
Alexandra Evans Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Dec 2018 12:51

1841 for father
Name: Andrew L Evans
[Arthur L Evans]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors:
Piece: 677
Book: 1
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwd Kendall Evens 35
Harriett Evens 40
Andrew L Evans 15
Edwd Evans 10
Harriett Amman 5
William Crewe 15
Gee Marback 30

1851
Name: Arthur Evans
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward Evans
Mother's name: Harriet Evans
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 1490
Folio: 18
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Evans 47
Harriet Evans 53
Arthur Evans 24
Edward Evans 21
Harriet Evans 16
Rebecca Evans 9
John Dwyer 17

Tawny

Tawny Report 28 Dec 2018 12:54

It is possible though I admit odd. Edward’s son Victor married a Mary Agnes McDonald O’Brien. Mary’s father Joseph was a hammerman and her brother also Joseph was a riveter and both worked at the shipyard.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Dec 2018 13:12

there is no birth recorded on gro for an edwin evans / betts

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Dec 2018 13:19

Re the 1871.
Can someone check the image again please? (We’re about to go out) From from memory, was one of the household members a hairdresser?

It’s possible that Edward was Edwin, but where did the J from the title/OP come from?

safc

safc Report 28 Dec 2018 13:24


Edwin Evans
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Edwin Evans
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Paddington, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 12
Gender Male
Age 18
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Boot Maker
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1853
Birthplace Paddington, Middlesex
Entry Number 14
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0006/0028
Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace
A L Evans Head M 45 Middlesex
Evans Wife F 44 Haddenham, Buckinghamshire
Edwin Evans Son M 18 Paddington, Middlesex
Albert F Evans Son M 13 Paddington, Middlesex
Arthur E Evans Son M 7 Paddington, Middlesex
Reginald E Evans Son M 4 Paddington, Middlesex
Walter S Evans Son M 1 Paddington, Middlesex
Emma Evans Daughter F 12 Paddington, Middlesex
Jessie Evans Daughter F 10 Paddington, Middlesex
Alexandra Evans Daughter F 8 Paddington, Middlesex
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBDB-JND : 11 December 2017), Edwin Evans in entry for A L Evans, 1871.

Tawny

Tawny Report 28 Dec 2018 13:36

It makes it more likely then that Edwin could be Edward. Only the certificate will tell.