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Sidami
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18 Jan 2019 22:32 |
William Mcnair married to Maud nee Stephens they married 1921.
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greyghost
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18 Jan 2019 22:40 |
For a bit of an idea where we might be looking
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%) McNair William A Stephens Marylebone 1a 1574
There is this birth McNAir/Stephens
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Jun 1922 (>99%) McNair Arthur W T Stephens Greenwich 1d 1825
and this possible 1939 where Arthur's initial does look like W on the original
McNair Household (6 People) 259 Roman Road , Poplar, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Maud Snooks (Mcnair) 08 Aug 1900 Female Domestic Cooks Assist Married 13 2 Arthur M McNair 19 Apr 1922 Male Builders Clerk Single 13 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. John Snook 10 Apr 1860 Male Retired Builders Labou Married 13 4 Charles Snook 19 Jan 1908 Male Builders Labourer Single 13 5 Elizabeth Snook 11 May 1913 Female Domestic Cleaner Single 13 6
the original also shows the change of Maud's name from McNair to Snooks was made on the register 16.3.1949
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Sidami
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18 Jan 2019 22:43 |
That’s the one Thankyou for you time..
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greyghost
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18 Jan 2019 22:44 |
Maud marriage reg, shows her as Stephens and McNair
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1949 (>99%)
Eggleton Jean M P Millar Ilford 5a 766 McNair Maud Snooks Ilford 5a 766 Millar Gerald D Eggleton Ilford 5a 766 Snooks Charles W McNair Ilford 5a 766 Snooks Charles W Stephens Ilford 5a 766 S Stephens Maud Snooks Ilford 5a 766
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Sidami
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18 Jan 2019 22:47 |
Was she married before with having the 2 surnames?
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+++DetEcTive+++
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18 Jan 2019 23:07 |
Unlikely. Did she & Wiiliam McNair divorce or did he die?
The 2nd MC might show her name as Maud Stephens formerly McNair, or the other way around. The only way to be certain is to purchase a copy.
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ErikaH
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19 Jan 2019 09:42 |
Madden name Stephens. Re-married in first married name McNair
1939 suggests that she had parted from McNair and taken up with Snooks. Perhaps had to wait for McNair to die before re-marrying
Look for McNair’s death on freebmd
There was a daughter registered as McNair in 1924. On freebmd
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19 Jan 2019 11:20 |
Wondering about this William. I don't see any marriage to an Elvira, shown as wife in 1939 below.
Possibly William's birth, taking into account year and location, and also son Arthur's name:
MCNAIR, WILLIAM ARTHUR mms MCGILLIVARY GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 669
If so, could this be William in 1939? I don't see any marriage of a William McNair to an Elvira.
William A McNair in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: William A McNair Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 25 Jan 1902 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 74 Bempton Drive Residence Place: Ruislip-Northwood, Middlesex, England Occupation: Aircraft Fitter Schedule Number: 268 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: BOBT Registration district: 127/1 Inferred Spouse: Elvina McNair Household Members: Name William A McNair Elvina McNair - 09 July 1906 , married [Elvira on image ] Frances C McNair - 05 Nov 1872
William Arthur McNair in the 1911 England Census Name: William Arthur McNair Age in 1911: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1902 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 125 Lisson Grove, Marylebone N W Registration district: St Marylebone Registration District Number: 7 Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 565 Household Members: Name Age William Henry McNair 45 Frances Charlotte McNair 39 Percy James McNair 14 Helena McNair 10 William Arthur McNair 9
Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%) McNair Frances C 68 Uxbridge 3a 259
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ArgyllGran
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19 Jan 2019 11:26 |
With William A. (Also in earlier years. This is the latest I can see. EDIT: Still at same address in 1957.)
Elvira McNair in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Elvira McNair Year: 1956 County or Borough: Ruislip and Northwood Ward or Division/Constituency: Ruislip Northwood South East Street address: 74 George Peter [mistranscribed. Actually 74 Bempton Drive ] Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0955
I don't see deaths for either of them.
If that's the right William, Maud wasn't waiting for him to die before remarrying.
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ArgyllGran
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19 Jan 2019 12:05 |
William A at the same address in 1963, with next wife Heather . They had married in Ealing in 1957. She's listed as Heather J McNair or Ball at marriage.
William A McNair in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: William A McNair Year: 1963 County or Borough: Ruislip and Northwood Ward or Division/Constituency: Ruislip Northwood South East Street address: 74 Bempton Drive
EDIT: Both still there in 1965.
Still don't see marriage or death for Elvira.
This death matches the DOB given in 1939 - but don't know if she's the same person:
Elvira Raven in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Elvira Raven Death Age: 73 Birth Date: 9 Jul 1906 Registration Date: Mar 1980 Registration district: Ealing Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 12 Page: 0122
Marriages Sep 1957 (>99%) SARTORI Elvira RAVEN Harrow 5f 1243
Births Sep 1906 (>99%) Sartori Elvira Chorlton 8c 953
I don't see Elvira Sartori in 1939. Perhaps she was living with William as his wife, and then they separated and both married other people in 1957 .
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ErikaH
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19 Jan 2019 15:22 |
Looks good. You’ve been busy!
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ArgyllGran
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19 Jan 2019 17:27 |
I must get a life!
Still can't see deaths of William or Heather.
Ancestry (for whatever that's worth) suggests that Heather J McNair or Ball was previously Rae.
If (big if) there's any truth in that - a previous marriage ??
Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%) RAE Heather J BALL Eton 6a 890
I've followed up this possible birth:
Births Jun 1930 (>99%) Rae Heather J Lutman Farnham 2a 276
Parents William R W and Alice M (with one closed record) lived in Eton in 1939.
She died in Australia, with surname Anderson
Heather Anderson in the Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988 Name: Heather Anderson Death Registration Year: 1986 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia Father: William Robert Wellington Rae Mother Maiden Name: Lutman Reference Number: 21202]
So unless she and/or William emigrated and she remarried, she's not Heather J Ball / McNair
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ErikaH
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19 Jan 2019 19:14 |
Let's hope Sidami returns..................
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