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Trying to locate parents of Brooks and Bonner

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greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Mar 2019 11:26

Try using the Genes Reunited tree to start with - if I can use it, it must be easy ! Just plan it out - you can always change things if you need to.

You will need certificates to confirm - I was once told "prove each generation before going backwards or you could end up a long way down the wrong path"

You can use the Search facility at the top of this page and then search all members trees. Input an ancestors barest details and see if there are any matches. You can then try to contact the tree holders (may not all be still members, or aren't interested or able to reply) - explain what you think the relationship might be and you may get some help that way - they may have certificates they can share etc.

Or, there are a lot of public trees on Ancestry where someone may have posted certificates etc. BUT without proof, do not trust Ancestry trees. People copy ad lib and you can find your granny born after you !!

I see you've asked about certificates on another thread, so you have that advice.

Adam

Adam Report 18 Mar 2019 22:15

Amazing research. I have no idea how I am going to piece this all together on a family tree to make sense. Do you have any tips on how I can confirm these are all relatives, or does this need birth certificates to confirm? I have struggled some time to piece together those in the Brooks family tree, this has been of interest as I carry the name, but have no family to provide any further information on the Brooks name.

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:25

??
Thomas Craft
England Births and Christenings
Name Thomas Craft
Gender Male
Christening Date 20 Jul 1776
Christening Date (Original) 20 JUL 1776
Christening Place EAST WORLDHAM,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name Jonathan Craft
Mother's Name Martha
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPPH-6PJ : 11 Febr

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:22

?? marriage

Name William Dutton
Spouse's Name Ann Swaine
Event Date 31 May 1810
Event Place Frensham,Surrey,England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:22

and ?Ann Dutton 1841 with parents. William senior is a Farmer

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Churt, Lower, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Dutton Male 65 1776 Surrey, England
Ann Dutton Female 55 1786 -
William Dutton Male 30 1811 Surrey, England
Ann Dutton Female 25 1816 Surrey, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:18

Relationships not shown on 1841 census but here is Charles Craft with possibly parents Thomas and Ann and Grandfather Jonathon

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Archdeaconry, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Craft Male 65 1776 - Not born in county Bricklayer
Ann Craft Female 66 1775 Surrey, England
Jonathan Craft Male 85 1756 Surrey, England Ag. Lab
Charles Craft Male 28 1813 Surrey, England Bricklayer
Thomas Bell Male 15 1826 -
Jane Bell Female 12 1829 Surrey, England
Daniel Read Male 7 1834 -
George Hill Male 25 1816 Surrey, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:14

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Parish, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Craft Head Married Male 48 1813 Builder Frensham, Surrey, England
Ann Craft Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Charles Craft Son - Male 12 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Thomas Craft Son - Male 10 1851 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Ann Mary Craft Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Mary Elizth Craft Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Frensham, Surrey, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 19:08

Hilda's mother's birth

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CRAFT, MARY ELIZABETH DUTTON
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 69

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and marriage of her parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)
BAKER Ann Farnham 4 130
Chuter Samuel Farnham 4 130
Craft Charles Farnham 4 130 <<<<<<<<
Dutton Ann Farnham 4 130 <<<<<<<<
Gosden Hannah Farnham 4 130
Keen James Farnham 4 130
Lawrence Elizabeth Farnham 4 130
Moore George Farnham 4 130


Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Mar 2019 17:08

1901
henry with mother mary and brother william
Henry
Last name Brooks
Relationship Son
Marital status -
Sex Male
Age 2
Birth year 1899
Birth town Woolwich
Birth town as transcribed WOOLWICH
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Kent
Birth county as transcribed LONDON
Occupation -
House name -
House number -
Street Harrow Road
Town -
Parish Aldershot (Hants)
Country England
County Hampshire
Municipal ward -
Registration district Farnham
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 613
Folio 9
Page 11

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:59

From another free site - https://www.familysearch.org

Possible marriage of Richard Bonner and Sarah from the 1841 census

Richard Bonner
mentioned in the record of Richard Bonner and Sarah West
Name Richard Bonner
Spouse's Name Sarah West
Event Date 12 Feb 1813
Event Place Frensham,Surrey,England

Several baptisms showing for their children on that same site

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:53

Looks to be William with his parents in 1841. Ages above 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5, so if William was 24 then that would make the birth c1817 as per later census


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pierepoint, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Bonner Male 55 1786 Surrey, England
Sarah Bonner Female 54 1787 Surrey, England
James Bonner Male 24 1817 Surrey, England
William Bonner Male 20 1821 Surrey, England
Richard Bonner Male 15 1826 Surrey, England

Richard Senior is an Ag. Lab. , James a Gardener, William an Ag. Lab and Richard a Male servant

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:44

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bonner Head Married Male 36 1815 Agricultl Labourer Frensham, Surrey, England
Mary Bonner Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Jane Bonner Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Sholar Frensham, Surrey, England
William Bonner Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Sholar Frensham, Surrey, England
Mary Bonner Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England
John Bonner Son - Male 2 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Infant - Son - Male 0 1851 - Frensham, Surrey, England

Infant Bonner is only 4 days old from original - (to be Richard)

----------------------------------------------------

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

BONNER, RICHARD WARNER
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 170

Children born before "Infant" appear to have been registered with no mmn showing but the parents married 1842

---------------------------------
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)
BONNER William Farnham 4 97
CRANSTONE Jane Farnham 4 97
SMITH William Farnham 4 97
WARNER Mary Farnham 4 97

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Mar 2019 16:38

in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
View British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

View Packet Cover

Report issue

Name: William Henry Brooks
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1872
Birth Place: Plumstead, Kent, England
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1894
Marriage Place: Woolwich
Age: 19
Document Year: 1891
Regimental Number: 85515
Regiment Name: Royal Artillery
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 21
Other Records: Search for 'William Henry Brooks' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
William Henry Brooks Self (Head)
Mary Donovan Spouse
William Alfred Stanley Brooks Child
Henry George Brooks Child
Ivy Mabel Brooks Child
Reginald John Brooks Child

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:34

Richard Bonner with family - Father and son both Gamekeepers. William Bonner is a Widower

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pierepont Farm, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bonner Head - Male 54 1817 - Surrey, England
Richard Bonner Son - Male 19 1852 - Surrey, England
Ellen Bonner Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Surrey, England
Annie Bonner Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Surrey, England
Emily Bonner Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Surrey, England
Fredrick Bonner Son - Male 9 1862 - Surrey, England
Eliza Bonner Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Surrey, England
Kate Bonner Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Surrey, England

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Parish, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Benner Head Married Male 44 1817 Shepherd Frensham, Surrey, England
Mercy Benner Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England
William Benner Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Agricultural Labourer Frensham, Surrey, England
Mercy Benner Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England
John Benner Son - Male 12 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Richard Benner Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Frensham, Surrey, England
Ellen Benner Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Anne Benner Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Emily Benner Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Fredrick Benner Son - Male 1 1860 - Frensham, Surrey, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:28

1881 - there's a transcription that didn't show up with variant names !! To be fair, I think it looks closer to Bound on the original

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Abbotswood Lodge, Binsted, Alton, Hampshire, England

Charles K Bound's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Bound Head Married Male 31 1850 Gamekeeper Frensham, Surrey, England
Mary E Bound Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Charles K Bound Son Single Male 3 1878 - Guildford, Surrey, England
George T C Bound Son Single Male 2 1879 - Binsted, Hampshire, England
William A Bound Son Single Male 0 1881 - Binsted, Hampshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Mar 2019 16:21

WILLIAM HENRY
Last name BROOKS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1894
Registration month -
WILLIAM HENRY BROOKS married one of these people

Mary Donovan
District Woolwich
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Volume as transcribed 1D
Page number 1531

?
1881
William
Last name Brooks
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 18
Birth year 1873
Birth town Leicester
Birth town as transcribed LEICESTER
Birth county Leicestershire
Birth county as transcribed LEICESTERSHIRE
Birth place England
Occupation Gunner Royal Artillery
Street -
Town -
Parish Woolwich
City -
County London, Kent
Country England
Registration district Woolwich
Archive reference RG12

William Henry
Last name Brooks
Age 40
Birth year 1872
Birth town Plumstead
Birth county Kent
Birth country England
Service number 85515
Regiment Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Unit / Battalion 51st, 2nd, 26th, 82nd Battery
Year 1912
Residence town Faversham
Residence county Kent
Residence country England
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Piece number 534
Folio 68
Page 6
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:19

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Keepers Cottage, Buckshorn Oak Lane, Binsted, Alton, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Bonner Head Married Male 39 1852 Game Keeper Surrey, England
Mary E Bonner Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Surrey, England
Charles R Bonner Son - Male 13 1878 - Surrey, England
George T Bonner Son - Male 12 1879 - Hampshire, England
William A Bonner Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Hampshire, England
Eveline M M Bonner Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Hampshire, England
Harvey J Bonner Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hampshire, England
Harry E Bonner Son - Male 5 1886 - Hampshire, England
Annie M Bonner Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Hampshire, England
Ethel E Bonner Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Hampshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Mar 2019 16:11

could this be william

Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive reference REG1
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
First name(s) William A S
Sex Male
Last name Brooks
Birth year 1894
Regiment Royal Artillery
Type Armed Forces
Country England
Place Woolwich
Page 19
Archive

Name: William Alfred S Brooks
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1173

BROOKS, WILLIAM ALFRED STANLEY DONOVAN
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1173

1939
55 Army Avenue , Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William A S Brooks 11 Aug 1894 Male Postman Married 253 1
Hilda G Brooks 15 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 253 2
Hilda G E Brooks 10 Jun 1918 Female Store Supervisor Britons Hor? Married 253 3
General Register Office
Record's year range 1894
Volume 480
Line number 92
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2019 16:10

To look at the record you 'linked' members would have to use 5 credits.

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Mar 2019 16:07

Hilda and William on the 1939 register

Hilda G Brooks on the 1939 Register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Brooks Household (5 People)
57 Army Avenue , Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Hilda G Brooks 15 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 253 2
William A S Brooks 11 Aug 1894 Male Postman Married 253 1
Hilda G E Brooks 10 Jun 1918 Female Store Supervisor Britons Hor? Married 253 3
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Daughter Hilda GE has been wrongly transcribed from the original, where she is shown as single. She must have died for her to be an open record.

The 2 closed records will be for other children of the couple - deaths up to 1990 when Register stopped being used are not showing in deaths, so they are still closed records. You can find their names on freebmd
The other birth in St Ives will belong to a couple Brooks/Bonner who married in St Ives 1938 I expect