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1911 Elvina's dad at 24,Caroline Place Fulham at No 23,was a Arthur Shoesmith born 1885 he died 9/11/1916.
This could be the Arthur mentioned in Ancestry tree which I posted earlier.

No help ,just thought I would post it.

Maryb.

Gary Put this in your favourites and use it for looking up info

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Could they be Romany Gypsies by any chance and that is why the lack of legal info?


Maryb

Gary

Where did you get your info ??

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Yes that is the only one I can see.

Maryb

Arthur Shoesmith married an Eliza smith not Elvina smith

View London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Name: Elvina Smith
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1893
Baptism Place: West Kensington St Andrew, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father: Frank Smith occ cutler
Mother: Ethel Smith
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 13 Dec 1892

According to a ancestry tree.

Hilda A Green as above 1923 married George Victor Clifford and Hilda died 1943.

Elvina maybe married Arthur Shoesmith died 1916
She had Hilda A Green1923 and then she married Joe bates had Josephine Bates in Brentford 1933 -2015.There is such a birth with mum nee Smith!

It has Elvina 1893-1963 Ealing Middlesex.

Maryb.

Only birth that comes up

Births Jun 1923
Green Hilda A Smith Brentford 3a 310

First name(s) ELVINA
Last name SMITH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1932
Registration month -




ELVINA SMITH married one of these people

James Churchard
Spouse's last name Churchard
District Kensington

maybe not. the 1939 has this Elvina born in 1909 :-(

There doesn't seem to be a marraige for her to a mr green

How have you got to that info

First name(s) ELVINA
Last name SMITH
Birth year 1893
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Williams
District Fulham

View 1901 England Census

Name: Elvina Smith
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Frank Smith
Mother: Ethalias Smith
Birth Place: Fulham, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 57
Folio: 106
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Smith 37 occ travelling cutler
Ethalias Smith 36 occ hawker
Lucy Smith 12
Eliza Smith 11
Elvina Smith 8
Frank Smith 5

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Have you found elvina on any census

first ide like to thank everyones who helped over the past months ive found out loads myself and lots more with youre help there just 1 more piece of the jigsaw im looking for hilda green b 1920-30s mother was elvina maiden name smith born 1893 in Fulham and marriages for elvina thanks again gary