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Caddapit
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1 May 2019 19:47 |
Looking for ancestors of George Jackson who died in Torbay / Torquay in the 1970's
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ArgyllGran
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1 May 2019 19:59 |
We need a bit more information than that, Ken.
Which of these deaths is the one you mean?
Deaths Jun 1970 (>99%) JACKSON George Colin (DOB: 16 Se1923 ) Torbay 7a 2273
Deaths Mar 1971 (>99%) JACKSON George Edward S ( DOB: 5 De1909 ) Torbay 7a 2519
Deaths Jun 1977 (>99%) JACKSON GEORGE LUTHER ( DOB: 24MR1899 ) TORBAY 21 257
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1 May 2019 20:17 |
The one who died in 1970:
Births Dec 1923 (>99%) Jackson George C Tydeman Kensington 1a 195
George C Jackson in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George C Jackson Gender: Male Marital status: Single Birth Date: 16 Sep 1923 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Kensington House Braddons Street No 1 Residence Place: Torquay, Devon, England Occupation: Porter (Stores Schedule Number: 138 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: WGEZ Inferred Father: Thomas G Jackson Inferred Mother: Ada F Jackson Household Members: Name Thomas G Jackson Ada F Jackson George C Jackson Charles C Jackson
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) Jackson Thomas G Tydeman Kensington 1a 291 Tydeman Ada F Jackson Kensington 1a 291
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1 May 2019 20:25 |
The one who died in 1971:
Birth: JACKSON, GEORGE EDWARD STANTON mms HOSKINS GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in UPTON ON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 269
George E S Jackson in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George E S Jackson Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 5 Dec 1909 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 3, Fleet St. Flat 2 Residence Place: Torquay, Devon, England Occupation: Civil Service, Telephonist Schedule Number: 48 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: WGEY Registration district: 272-2. Inferred Spouse: Dorothy Jackson Household Members: Name George E S Jackson Dorothy Jackson
His marriage:
Marriages Jun 1938 (>99%) JACKSON George E S Randle Totnes 5b 473 Randle Dorothy Jackson Totnes 5b 473
Possibly his parents' marriage ??:
Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%) Hoskins Lois Lavinia E. Stonehouse 5b 435 Jackson George Henry E. Stonehouse 5b 435
George Edward Jackson in the 1911 England Census Name: George Edward Jackson Age in 1911: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1910 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Broomhall, Kempsey Civil Parish: Kempsey County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: No 14 Broomhall, Kempsey, Worcester Registration district: Upton on Severn Registration District Number: 378 Sub-registration district: Kempsey ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 17677 Household Members: Name Age George Henry Jackson 37 Lois Lavinia Jackson 39 Leslie Rundle Jackson 9 Kathleen Mary Jackson 7 George Edward Jackson 1
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1 May 2019 20:39 |
The one who died in 1977 is more of a problem.
I don't see the birth of a George Luther Jackson at any time in the UK.
There are several birth records for children named George Jackson in and around 1899, in various places - but impossible to tell which might be him.
In addition, if the DOB given on his death record is not correct, there are these slight possibilities:
JACKSON, LUTHER mms TUNBRIDGE GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1073
JACKSON, LUTHER GEORGE mms BULL GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 856
The 1904 birth is in the March quarter, which would match the DOB given in the death record, although the year is different.
The 1900 birth might have been registered in the Jun qr if the birth was 23 March 1900, instead of 1899.
EDIT:
NO. Neither of those Luthers - see next two posts .
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1 May 2019 20:49 |
NO, Luther George is NOT the man who died in 1977 .
Marriage of parents of Luther George:
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) BULL Ada Rose Aston 6d 580 JACKSON Martin Luther Aston 6d 580
Luther G Jackson in the 1911 Census of Canada Name: Luther G Jackson Gender: Male Marital status: Single Race or Tribe: English Age: 7 Birth Date: Dec 1903 Birth Place: England Census Year: 1911 Relation to Head of House: Son Immigration Year: 1906 Province: Ontario District: London City District Number: 94 Sub-District: 29 Sub-District Number: 29 Place of Habitation: 836 Stedwell Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Martin S Jackson 36 Ada W Jackson 32 Luther G Jackson 7
Travelling with parents Ada A (40) and Martin L (44) , upholsterer, and brother Harold V (3):
Luther Geo Jackson in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Luther Geo Jackson Arrival Age: 15 Birth Date: abt 1904 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 21 May 1919 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Tunisian Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line Official Number: 111248
Luther George Jackson in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1937 Name: Luther George Jackson Gender: Male Age: 31 Birth Year: abt 1904 Birth Place: England Marriage Date: 11 Jul 1935 Marriage Place: New Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada Father: Martin Luther Mother: Ada Rose Luther Spouse: Evelyn Gertrude Stillman
Luther G. Jackson in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Luther G. Jackson Birth Date: 1903 Death Date: 1980 Cemetery: Forest Lawn Memorial Gardens Burial or Cremation Place: London, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
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2 May 2019 10:27 |
Also ruling out Luther Jackson born 1900, as a candidate for the man who died in 1977:
Parents' marriage: Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%) JACKSON James Henry Greenwich 1d 1098 Tunbridge Catherine Greenwich 1d 1098
Luther Jackson in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Name: Luther Jackson Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1900 Baptism Place: Hatcham St Catherine, Lewisham, England Father: James Jackson Mother: Kate Jackson
Luther Jackson in the 1901 England Census Name: Luther Jackson Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: James Jackson Mother: Kate Jackson Birth Place: Brockley, London, England Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine Hatcham County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford, South ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Neighbors: Piece: 533 Folio: 41 Page Number: 73 Household schedule number: 464 Household Members: Name Age James Jackson 24 Kate Jackson 23 James Jackson 4 Walter Jackson 2 Luther Jackson 1 [ also a family of Kemps visiting them ]
Luther Jackson in the 1911 England Census Name: Luther Jackson Age in 1911: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Rock Civil Parish: Lewisham County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 40 Kneller Road, Brockley Occupation: SCHOOL Registration district: Lewisham Registration District Number: 29 Sub-registration district: Lewisham ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Piece: 2772 Household Members: Name Age James Jackson 35 Kate Jackson 33 James H Jackson 14 Walter Jackson 12 Luther Jackson 11 Herbert Jackson 9 Chorley Jackson 6 William Jackson 3 Kate Mary Jackson 1
Probably him:
Luther Jackson in the Web: UK, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Service Records Index, 1903-1922 Name: Luther Jackson Birth Date: 9 Feb 1900 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Year Range: 1917-1918 Service Number: Z/8498 Division: London
I don't see his death - but - wrong DOB for the George Luther who died in 1977 - and in any case, no mention of the name George in any of the records.
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Caddapit
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4 May 2019 10:12 |
Wow thanks Gran that's amazing, now all I have to do is work out the correct one!!
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ArgyllGran
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4 May 2019 11:11 |
What else do you know about your George? How did you come upon his name?
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4 May 2019 11:35 |
???
George Luther Jackson in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: George Luther Jackson Year: 1922 County or Borough: Lewisham Ward or Division/Constituency: Deptford Street address: 8 Foxberrv Road-
However, this isn't helpful, as he appears to have been living alone.
There are three other names at 8 Foxberry Road, but looks like they're all in different flats.
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4 May 2019 12:14 |
Or there's this man. At first I thought he might be the Luther Jackson born 1900, whom I couldn't find after his army record in 1918 - but DOB is very different, and much nearer to that of George Luther who died in Torbay.
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Luther George Jackson in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Luther George Jackson Year: 1952 County or Borough: Islington Ward or Division/Constituency: Finsbury and Shoreditch Street address: 1 Globe Court [ address is actually 25 Crofts House on the image ]
Living with Hilda Jackson.
Also at addresses in Islington, Wandsworth, and Southwark 1932-54
Marriage - he was known as either Luther or George ??
Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%) Bennett Hilda E Jackson Camberwell 1d 1559 Jackson George Bennett Camberwell 1d 1559 Jackson Luther Bennett Camberwell 1d 1559
Luther G Jackson in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Luther G Jackson Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 14 Mar 1900 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 81 Residence Place: Battersea, London, England Occupation: Grocer Shopkeeper Schedule Number: 91 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: ABNU Inferred Spouse: Hilda Jackson Inferred Children: Gladys Jackson Household Members: Name Luther G Jackson Hilda Jackson - 27 Feb 1901 Gladys Jackson (Sparkes) (Smart) - 18 Feb 1924 [ and four closed records on Ancestry ]
DOB possibly not too dissimilar to 24 Mar 1899 - if the informant didn't know him well?? (Yes, I know, I'm grasping at straws.)
Hilda's death:
Deaths Mar 1976 (>99%) JACKSON HILDA ELIZABETH (dob 27FE1902 ) BROMLEY 11 1660
Perhaps he retired to Torbay after Hilda died ?????
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4 May 2019 12:43 |
Back to George Luther Jackson who was living in Foxberry Road in 1922 -
?? No idea if this could be the same man or not - no indication of what the L stands for, nor of age:
George L Jackson in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: George L Jackson Year: 1961 County or Borough: Ealing Ward or Division/Constituency: Ealing Central Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1068
Address: St Helena's Cottage, Drayton Green.
Still at that address in 1964, and had been there since at least 1952.
Coincidence - in 1964 he's with a Hilda Jackson. No Hilda in 1962 or 1961. He's with Hilda in 1960. In 1959 he's with Hilda Jackson and Patricia A Jackson. 1953 - 1956, George and Hilda. 1952 - nobody else listed with him.
EDIT -
NO, that's this man, probably -
Deaths Sep 1964 (>99%) JACKSON GEORGE L 57 EALING 5E 21
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ArgyllGran
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22 May 2019 09:54 |
Ken did reply, by PM, saying he was going to investigate George E S Jackson.
Subsequent new thread on Find Living Relatives:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1377852
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