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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 10:26 |
Trying to find the following information:
- Baptism record - Address or any other information prior to 1901 (UK census)
for William PATON
Birth: 8 Feb 1862 (via 1939 UK census) Place of birth: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland (via 1911 UK census) Occupation: Journalist, author and/or cashier in newspaper office Marriage: 9 Jul 1921 Register Office Barnet, Middlesex to Florence Gertrude DANIELL Father: James PATON - deceased innkeeper (as per marriage certificate) Mother: no idea as yet Death: 20 Apr 1943 at 58 Durham Road, Finchley, England
1901 census: 44 Burton Crescent, St Pancras, London, England Living with his wife Florence, stated to be married although they were not officially married until 1921.
1911 census: 103 Kings Cross Road, St Pancras, London, England Living with wife Gertrude (sometimes goes by Florence, sometimes Gertrude) - stated to be married 12 years, however not married until 1921.
1939 census: 58 Durham Road, Finchley, England Widowed and retired - living with people with surnames PASCOE and ACKERMAN - no idea if he was related to a any of these people
Any help would be much appreciated.
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 10:57 |
William Paton Scotland Census, 1891 Name: William Paton Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Event Place: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, Scotland Enumeration District Number: 7 Address: DENNYHOLM STREET Gender: Male Age: 29 Age: 29 Occupation: FLAX DRESSER Birthplace: Ayrshire Relationship to Head of Household: HEAD Schedule Type: 88 Registration District: Kilbirnie Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 7
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 11:10 |
Dear Malyon,
Thanks for your suggestion. I don't see any similarities to the William PATON I am looking for other than the birth county and age. What makes you believe this might be the William I'm looking for?
Thanks, Rebecca
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 11:23 |
wonder if william was married before so could not marry florence till 1921
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 11:31 |
only one i can find in scotland
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Maddie
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14 Jul 2019 11:31 |
??????? 1891
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Kingsborough Head Married Male 38 1853 Coach Builder Scotland Julia Kingsborough Wife Married Female 39 1852 - London, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Kingsborough Sister Single Female 36 1855 Sempstress Scotland Edward Moulton Boarder Single Male 22 1869 Clerk London, Middlesex, England William Paton Boarder Single Male 28 1863 Clerk ScotlandGreat College Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 11:31 |
Births Sep 1874 (>99%) DANIELL Florence Gertrude Holborn 1b 697
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Maddie
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14 Jul 2019 11:42 |
????? father james 1891 Name: James Paton Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Anne Paton Gender: Male Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Registration Number: 588 Registration district: Dalrymple Civil Parish: Dalrymple County: Ayrshire Address: Main Street Dalrymple Inn Occupation innkeeper -------- ED: 3 Household schedule number: 63 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_203 Household Members: Name Age James Paton 58 Anne Paton 58 Eliza Paton 21 James Paton 18 Anne Paton 15
1881 Name: James Paton Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Annie Paton Gender: Male Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayr Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 166 Hospital Street Occupation: Smith & Ironmonger - Employing 1 Man ED: 44 Household schedule number: 26 Line: 6 Roll: cssct1881_247 Household Members: Name Age James Paton 48 Annie Paton 48 Jane Paton 21 William Paton 19 Thomas Paton 17 Eliza Paton 11 James Paton 9 Annie Paton 6 Annie Jane McNeil 11
william from 1881 cennsus Name: William Paton Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relationship: Son Father's name: James Paton Mother's name: Annie Paton Gender: Male Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayr Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 166 Hospital Street Occupation: Student Of Ec School(Teacher) ED: 44
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 11:44 |
Hi Malyon,
I see your train of thought. He may indeed have been married previously, that might be the reason he didn't marry Florence Gertrude DANIELL until 1921. However I don't think that 1891 Scotland census find is him. The occupation is not a match.
Your birth registration from Florence Gertrude DANIELL is correct. She was born on 9 Aug 1874 at 27 Warren Street, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Thanks for your help.
Regards, Rebecca
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 11:51 |
Dear Maddie,
That looks like it might just be a candidate for William's father in the 1891 census - innkeeper is definitely the correct occupation. I wonder whether we can trace when this James PATON died? It would have to be prior to 1921 to match the information on William's marriage certificate.
I will investigate your 3x Scottish census finds further.
I also think the 1891 St Pancras census for William could indeed be him.
Thanks!
Regards, Rebecca
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 12:03 |
I've found possible father James PATON in 1901 census as a widower:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Main Street, Dalrymple, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Paton Head Widower Male 71 1830 Hotel Keeper Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland James A Paton Son Single Male 27 1874 Law Clerk Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Annie G Paton Daughter Single Female 23 1878 Hotel Manageress Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Jeannie Whyte Servant Single Female 19 1882 Gen Servt (Domestic) -
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 12:09 |
Does anyone know what the E C stands for in the 1881 Scottish census for William PATON aged 19. He was listed as a 'student of E C school (teacher).
Thanks in advance, Rebecca
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 12:18 |
James Paton Find A Grave Index birth 1803 Name: James Paton Event Type: Burial Event Date: 1871 Event Place: Kilmarnock, , East Ayrshire, Scotland Photograph Included: Y Death Date: 29 Nov 1871 Affiliate Record Identifier: 174021527 Cemetery: Saint Andrews Churchyard
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Rebecca
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14 Jul 2019 12:21 |
Hi Maylon,
Thanks. I'm trying to find the death of James PATON who was born c.1833. The one's you have traced may be family.
Regards, Rebecca
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 12:31 |
Annie Paton Find A Grave Index Name: Annie Paton Event Type: Burial Event Date: 1913 Event Place: Glasgow, , Glasgow City, Scotland Photograph Included: Y Death Date: 12 Nov 1913 Affiliate Record Identifier: 97489987 Cemetery: Westburn Cemetery
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2019 12:33 |
Two possibilities for William's birth:
PATON WILLIAM M 1862 597/ 185 Kilmarnock (Ayr)
PATON WILLIAM M 1862 597/ 684 Kilmarnock (Ayr)
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Maddie
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14 Jul 2019 12:34 |
you may need scotland people a site where you can register, do a free search and buy credits to view
could be annie PATON ANNIE 79 1914 597/ 263 Kilmarnock (Ayr)
age is out
PATON JAMES 70 1909 597/ 443 Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name Image View PATON WILLIAM M 1862 597/ 185 Kilmarnock (Ayr) Buy credits PATON WILLIAM M 1862 597/ 684 Kilmarnock (Ayr)
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malyon
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14 Jul 2019 12:34 |
Name: James Paton Event Type: Burial Event Place: Glasgow, Glasgow City, Scotland, United Kingdom Cemetery: Glasgow Western Necropolis Latitude: 55.899912 Longitude: -4.281664 Death Date: 07 Dec 1917 Affiliate Create Date: 09 Dec 2017 Affiliate Image Identifier: 25376103
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AustinQ
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14 Jul 2019 12:41 |
Wills and testaments
James Paton Date: 13/2/1902 Kirkton Inn, Dalrymple, d. 23/11/1901 at Dalrymple, intestate. Ayr Sheriff Court SC6/44/65
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2019 12:42 |
As James was living in Dalrymple in 1891, this may be his death:
PATON JAMES 69 mms MCKINLAY 1901 588/ 8 Dalrymple
Possibly his birth, though age doesn't quite match:
PATON JAMES WILLIAM PATON/ELIZABETH MACKINLAY FR1862 CHILD 9 (FR1862) M 20/09/1830 597/ 70 308 Kilmarnock
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