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In my Siggs tree their is a puzzle. John Siggs married 1738 to Ann Wiffen. He is either John, son of Matthew and Elizabeth bap. 6th Dec 1715 or John, son of Obadiah and Elizabeth bap. 31st Mar 1717. Both St. Mary's Haverhill. Apart from other people's public trees(!) I can find no way of proving he is the son of one or the other. How can I go about doing this ? Would a parish record detail the parents of the newly weds or was that down to the local vicar and whether he could he bothered ?

No is the short answer.

Fathers were not named on marriage records until the introduction of Civil registration in 1837

Below from google search, if anything relating...

Chris :)

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=672970.0

(worth a look round on below)

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

If both Johns could write, it is just possible that using original documents you might be able to distinguish between them or see a match, for example as witnesses to their children's marriage.

Admittedly in 1800s, but a friend was able to use this method to prove that a James who married near Newcastle was the same man who married in Southampton.

if john and ann had children there might be a clue if they were named after his parents

Mary Siggs
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
Mary Siggs
Residence Place:
Suffolk, England
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
30 Mar 1740
Christening Date (Original):
30 Mar 1740
Christening Place:
Bury, St. Edmund, Suffolk, England
Birthplace:
Haverhill
Father's Name:
John Siggs
Mother's Name:
Anne Siggs

John /Siggs/
View Tree
Sex
Male
Birth
about 1716
PARENTS
Father
Obadiah /Siggs/
Mother
elizabeth /Gilson/

looks like they were john's parents

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3F8Z-YV3

John /Siggs/
View Tree
Sex
Male
Birth
1741
Death
1825
PARENTS
Father
John /Siggs/
Mother
Ann /Whiffen/

Are there any Wills for Fathers?...

Chris :)

Edits (do they relate to Cambridge/Cambs. then?)


CD/Download CD/PR/006 Castle Camps, Shudy Camps & Horseheath Parish Registers 1553-1950.... £13.60

(above can be purchased from CFHS)

(Haverhill, Suffolk being near Cambs. Essex borders)

The link posted by Malyon is just to somebody's tree, so not necessarily correct - maybe just a guess on the part of the tree owner.

Do you know where any of them were buried? - There may be something on the gravestones , especially if they had a 'family grave'.

Dea x

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll probably have to take the hike to Suffolk/Cambridge and look through records to see what I can find. An adventure for the future. I've used Freereg, purchased the Suffolk Baptism index for the relevant area/ period of time and various other routes. Checking for Wills is a great idea ! I believe I may have one for an Obadiah but not sure which Obadiah ! It seems Siggs were called Matthew, John or Obadiah; Generation after generation and they shared the names amongst different lines to add to the confusion. I think we were to poor for gravestones !

Anything Cambs. related would be on below...

https://www.cfhs.org.uk/

Not seeing anything Suffolk.

Chris :)

(and don't rush to Cambridge, as the Archives are shut, being moved to Ely, lol)

Ta !