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William, John Henry, & James Mills immigration

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Ellen

Ellen Report 29 Aug 2020 03:47

I have brothers William Mills born 1866 died 8/10/1916 Perth West Aust John Henry Mills born 1869 died 2/6/1946 Perth West Aust & James Mills born 6/7/1873 died 27/8/1919 Perth West Aust

Their father Joseph Mills born 1833 died 13/11/1877 at Warrington Lancashire their mother Ellen ( Nee Travis) born 1842 Warrington died 6/7/1885

I know that these brothers came to live in Western Australia as I have all of their information ,but I would like to know when & how they came to Fremantle
Any information would be gratefully receive thank you

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Aug 2020 06:47

William was born in Warrington in 1866

MILLS, WILLIAM TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 162
MILLS, WILLIAM TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 129

But unable to find a birth for John Henry in 1869

So looks like their likely immigration was between 1866-69


EDIT

Looks like there could be more siblings, so above immigration period is not right!

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MILLS, JAMES EDWARD TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 1
MILLS, JOHN TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 2
MILLS, JOSEPH TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 200
MILLS, JOSEPH TRAVIS
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 164

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Aug 2020 08:59

For Ref, looks like Mother Ellen remarries after Father Joseph dies in 1877

1881 Census

Name: Ellen Isherwood
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Isherwood
Gender: Female
Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 66 Longford St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Fustian Cutter
Registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3797
Folio: 137
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Isherwood 44
Ellen Isherwood 32
John Mills 13
James Mills 7
Sarah Isherwood

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Aug 2020 09:34

For Ref

MILLS, JOHN HENRY TRAVIES
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 168

Looks like James & John Henry were still in Warrington in 1901

1901 Census

Name: John H Mills
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Warrington
Search Photos: Search for 'Warrington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Elphin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3584
Folio: 68
Page Number: 33
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mills 27
Mary E Mills 28
Annie Mills 8/12
John H Mills 31


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 10:42

James and family were in Australia by 1915:

Document dated May 20, 1915.

James Mills
in the Australia, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: James Mills
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Birth Year: abt 1873
Birth Place: Warrington, England
Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920
Enlistment Place: Perth, Western Australia
Service Number: 4857
Spouse: Mary E Mills

Address: 53 Wardie Street, Fremantle.

Previous service: 12 years, South Lancashire Volunteers.
Occupation: Baker. Had been apprenticed to W Mills, biscuit manufacturer, Fremantle.

The record doesn't say how long he'd lived in Australia.



Daughter Annie's birth:

MILLS, ANNIE mms KENYON
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 251

Another child, so they were still in the UK in 1903:

MILLS, ALFRED JAMES mms KENYON
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 248 Occasional Copy: A


Alfred James Mills
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Alfred James Mills
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1902
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1903
Baptism Place: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Father: James Mills
Mother: Mary Elizabeth Mills
FHL Film Number: 1562967
Reference ID: v 65 p 165

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 11:03

James and Mary Elizabeth were in Wardie Street in 1914:

James Mills
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: James Mills
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1914
Electoral Place: South Fremantle, Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Residence Address: Wardie street
Occupation: Foreman

In that year, John Henry was at 21 South Street, Fremantle. (At least I assume he's the same John Henry.)



James, Mary Elizabeth, and John Henry all at 29 Ada Street in 1910:

James Mills
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: James Mills
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1910
Electoral Place: South Fremantle, Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia



ADDED:

James and John Henry at 31 Wardie Street in 1906:

James Mills
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: James Mills
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1906
Electoral Place: South Fremantle, Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia

So the emigration window is 1903-1906.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 11:07

As Mary Elizabeth isn't listed with James in 1906, presumably she went out later (1906-1910).

Long shot :

Nellie Mills 32, Emma 6, and James 3 all travelling together.
Emma = Annie ? James = Alfred James ?? Nellie = Mary Elizabeth ???

James Mills
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: James Mills
Gender: Male
Age: 3
Birth Date: abt 1904
Departure Date: 9 Nov 1907
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Dorset
Shipping Line: Federal Houlder Shire Line
Master: W L Prentice

Ellen

Ellen Report 29 Aug 2020 13:12

I have just found out that James Mills born 6/7/1873 with his wife Mary Elizabeth (nee Kenyon) left Southampton on the "SS Omrah" & arrived in Fremantle 4th April 1904

Also that William Mills (born 1866 ) went to Victoria, he married a Susan Ann Lee in 1891 in Victoria then moved to West Aust I have all of his family details,
Still have not found his immigration must be before 1913 as they are living at East Fremantle then

.Still looking for John Henry born 1869 Immigration must have been before 1906 as he is living at South Fremantle I have his death in 1946 in West Aust

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 13:16

"Also that William Mills (born 1866 ) went to Victoria, he married a Susan Ann Lee in 1891 in Victoria then moved to West Aust I have all of his family details,
Still have not found his immigration must be before 1913 as they are living at East Fremantle then"

If I'm understanding that correctly, he must have emigrated before 1891.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 13:47

Re the 1904 emigration of James and Mary Elizabeth which you mention -

this is the nearest I can find on Ancestry:

Elizabeth Mills
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Elizabeth Mills
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1859
Departure Date: 11 Mar 1904
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Fremantle, Australia
Ship Name: Omrah
Master: F S Symons

Her age is way out, and her husband James, 28, is listed as a musician, so it's probably not her.
They're travelling with their son Alfred, aged 1.

If it's them, no sign of Annie.


They reached Fremantle on 20th April 1904:

Elizabeth Millo
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Elizabeth Millo
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Age: 45
Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1904
Arrival Port: Adelaide and Fremantle, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Omrah
Nationality: Scottish [ it doesn't say Scottish anywhere on the record ]

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2020 13:58

Maybe William still in England in 1881:

William Mills
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Mills
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 16 Foundry St
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: General Assistant (Prov Dealer)
Registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Piece: 3794
Folio: 67
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Carter 51
Elizabeth Vernon 55
William Mills 16

Ellen

Ellen Report 30 Aug 2020 01:16

Maybe Elizabeth Carter aged 51 years is his Aunt his mother Ellen's sister born about 1834?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2020 10:03

Where did you find the 1904 travel details you mention?

Ellen

Ellen Report 31 Aug 2020 03:15

The Grand Daughter of James & Mary gave me this information she didn't realise she had it until she went thru a suitcase of papers

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2020 11:58

This is the marriage, presumably.
No image to view on Ancestry, to see if there are any other identifying details:

Susan Lee
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Susan Lee
Spouse Name: Wm Mills
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Number: 6638


Possible birth of a child:

William Norman Mills
in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: William Norman Mills
Birth Date: Abt 1901
Birth Place: Fremantle
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Western Australia, Australia
Father: William Mills
Mother: Susan Lee
Registration Number: 1945


Not that that answers your question about emigration, and you say you have all the Australian info already.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2020 12:10

As James Mills's army record says he had been apprenticed to W Mills, biscuit manufacturer, Fremantle, maybe this is William's immigration record:

Wm Mills
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Wm Mills
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Age: 21
Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1887
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Port Denison
Nationality: English

On the image it says he's a baker.

He was contracted to land at Sydney.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2020 12:16

But this record also lists a baker named William Mills:

Wm Mills
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Wm Mills
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Age: 21
Arrival Date: Mar 1887
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Ship: Ormuz
Nationality: English

Ellen

Ellen Report 2 Sep 2020 01:06

Thank you ArgyllGran we are going with the 1st one as I have been told he worked his passage to Australia ( he was contacted to land in Sydney) Many thanks for all of your help