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Patricia
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11 Oct 2020 09:12 |
Born in N. Ireland approx 1898 Married Audrey Hallsworth 1919 in Alvaston Derbyshire UK. .Father of Wilfred Everard b. 1919 Father of Alan Terence b. 1925 Plus a Daughter details unknown Links to Girvan family relocated to Liverpool from Ireland, living and working in the docks.
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rootgatherer
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11 Oct 2020 10:17 |
Do you have a question?
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 10:18 |
Do you have a question?
Do you know that the 1901 and 1911 Irish censuses are FREE?
Find daughter’s birth by looking for it on freebmd using the two surnames
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rootgatherer
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11 Oct 2020 10:42 |
Audrey remarried in 1930 using her maiden name.
You need to buy the 1919 marriage certificate for John West Girvan to find the name and occupation of his father if you wish to work back from him.
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2020 10:59 |
This is the daughter's birth:-
First name(s) DOROTHY Last name GIRVAN Birth year 1923 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Hallsworth District Bakewell County Derbyshire Country England Volume 7B Page 1422 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
The birth of the son Alan does not give a middle name so it must have been added at a later date - possibly at baptism.
As already suggested - you need to buy a copy of the 1919 marriage certificate.
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2020 11:07 |
This is Audrey in the 1939 register with her second husband (also with Wilfred):-
27 Moor Drive, Derby, Shardlow R.D., Derbyshire, England
Woolley household (4 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John Woolley 30 May 1905 Male Iron Steel & Metal Dresser Married 362 1 Audrey Ethel (A) Woolley 16 Jun 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 362 2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Audrey Anne Woodhouse (Woolley) 18 Dec 1934 Female Under School Age Single 362 3 Wilfred Girvan 02 Jul 1919 Male Apprentice Coppersmith Single 362 4<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2020 11:17 |
Wilfred's death:-
First name(s) WILFRED EVERARD Last name GIRVAN Gender Male Birth day 3 Birth month 7 Birth year 1919 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1996 District Blackpool & Fylde District number 5811B Register number B45C Entry number 112 Date of registration mm/yy 1196 County Lancashire Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2020 11:20 |
Audrey's death:-
First name(s) AUDREY ETHEL Last name WOOLLEY Gender Female Birth day 11 Birth month 6 Birth year 1898 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1969 District Derby County Derbyshire Volume 3A Page 663 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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KathleenBell
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11 Oct 2020 11:28 |
Please ignore this post (see Erika's post below).
This is the only John W. Girvan that I can find in the 1939 register. He says he is single but if Audrey married for a second time using her maiden name then they may have just split up and gone their separate ways because divorce was too expensive back then. :-
Otby House Farm, Walesby, Caistor R.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William M Girvan 31 Jan 1873 Male Farmer Married 54 1 Hannah L Girvan 25 Mar 1875 Female Housewife Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 54 2 John W Girvan 30 Mar 1899 Male Farmer (Arable & Machinery) Single 54 3<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< George Girvan 16 May 1916 Male Farmer (Sheep) Single 54 4 Kate Crawford (Bennett,Blow) 08 Feb 1907 Female Domestic Servant Mental Defaective On Licence From Harmston Hall Col? Single 54 5
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 12:53 |
1901 for the man posted above in 1939
Name: John Wilson Girvan Age: 2 Mos Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Murdock Girvan Mother's Name: Hannah Lindsay Girvan Gender: Male Where born: Kirkmahoe, dumfriesshire Registration Number: 835 Registration District: Kirkmahoe Civil Parish: Kirkmahoe County: Dumfriesshire Address: Auchenwrath ED: 4 Household Schedule Number: 11 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_432 Household Members: Name Age William Murdock Girvan 28 Hannah Lindsay Girvan 25 William Murdock Girvan 3 John Wilson Girvan 2 Mos Barbara Ferguson 19 John Dalzield 15
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 12:55 |
Name: John West Girvan Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 May 1919 Event Place: Alvaston, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom Gender: Male Age: 24************************************************************NOTE Marital Status: Single Birth Year (Estimated): 1895 Father's Name: Joseph Girvan Spouse's Name: Audrey Ethel Hallworth Spouse's Gender: Female Spouse's Age: 21 Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1898 Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Hallworth
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 12:55 |
Name: Wilfred Everard Event Type: Baptism Event Place: Boulton, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Derbyshire, Boulton, Chapelry of Boulton Christening Date: 19 Jul 1919 Father's Name: Jack West Girvan Mother's Name: Audrey Dorothy Ethel Girvan
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 13:22 |
Patricia
How do you know that JWG was born in Northern Ireland? Have you any proof?
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ErikaH
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11 Oct 2020 13:32 |
I've looked at the IrishBMD site - no record of a birth for a John West Girvan
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alviegal
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11 Oct 2020 22:12 |
A previous thread on this man with a lot more information but we never did find out anything conclusive.
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1365004?page=0
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ErikaH
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12 Oct 2020 13:21 |
Well, that was more time wasted..........................
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