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Lillian Birks

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 19:25

Francis W Birks
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Francis W Birks
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 15/06/1913 (15 Jun 1913)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 16
Residence Place: Hendon Middlesex England
Occupation: Bank Clerk
Line Number: 39
Schedule Number: 87
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: BKDK
Borough: Hendon
Registration district: 130/3
Household Members Age
Alice Ross 74
Frank E Stallard 67
Ethel Stallard 59
Kenneth F C Stallard 34
Francis W Birks 26




Francis Birks
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Francis Birks
Arrival Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1913
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1947
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521

He was an accountant, and travelling with Phyllis Birks, 31, and xxxxx Birks, 1.
(I've redacted the daughter's name, as she is living.)

They were going to 642 Mitcham Road, Croydon.



Going back to India:

Francis William Birks
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Francis William Birks
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1914
Departure Date: 17 Feb 1948
Port of Departure: Tilbury, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: Empire Windrush
Shipping Line: New Zealand Shipping Company Limited
Official Number: 181561
Master: J G X Almond


Travelling with Phyllis and daughter.
The family must have been showing the baby to grandparents or other family members, as the child wasn't born in the UK - presumably in India.


They returned to the UK in 1952:

Francis Birks
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Francis Birks
Arrival Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1914
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 6 Apr 1952
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney; Melbourne; Adelaide; Fremantle; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Stratheden
Shipping Line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 165614

Travelling with Phyllis and daughter.



Francis W Birks
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Francis W Birks
Registration Date: Oct 1952
[Nov 1952]
[Dec 1952]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Phyllis B A Cooksey
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 781


Probable death, although DOB is one year out:

Francis William Birks
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Francis William Birks
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1914
Registration Date: Apr 1980
[May 1980]
[Jun 1980]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1793




Deaths Mar 1977 (>99%)
BIRKS PHYLLIS BARBARA A 22OC1916 CHELMSFORD 9 2077


The daughter married in 1969, and she and her husband are at an Essex address on the 2020 Electoral Roll.

Valerie

Valerie Report 2 Dec 2020 18:46

Hi Thank you so much for all this info you are all great.......... stay safe <3 <3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Dec 2020 18:04

Frank is a common abbreviation of Francis

Valerie

Valerie Report 2 Dec 2020 17:53

Told the son born in Banbury name is Frank Birks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Dec 2020 16:50

Here's where to look for basic info

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:28

There are a lot of Birks/Jones births after 1911, in various places, but impossible to know if any of them are Thomas and Lillie's children without buying the certs.

There was one in Banbury, but you'd need the cert to check parents' names:

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Birks Francis W Jones Banbury 3a 2268

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:25

Thomas Birks
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Birks
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Thomas (Junr) Birks
Mother: Annie Birks
Gender: Male
Where born: Goole, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Goole Barracks Mill House
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration District: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Piece: 4701
Folio: 25
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas (Junr) Birks 35 - journeyman miller
Annie Birks 34
Robert L. Birks 7
Thomas Birks 6
Arthur Birks 3
Charlotte Birks 1
Annie Longbottom 14 - servant



BIRKS, CHARLOTTE mmn WOODHEAD
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in GOOLE Volume 09C Page 743


BIRKS, THOMAS mmn WOODHEAD
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in GOOLE Volume 09C Page 733


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Birks Thomas Gilderdale Goole 9c 951
Woodhead Annie Goole 9c 95

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:16

Lillie Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lillie Jones
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: William Jones
Mother: Sarah E Jones
Birth Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Rochdale
Sub-registration District: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors:
Piece: 3834
Folio: 177
Page Number: 24
Household Schedule Number: 178
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jones 42
Sarah E Jones 42
Lillie Jones 16
John H Jones 14
Jessie Jones 11
Mary Jones 9


JONES, MARY mmn HUDSON
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 33


????
JONES, JOHN HIGHTON mms BURTON
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 32

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:12

Lillie Jones
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Lillie Jones
Gender: Female
Age: 6
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1885
Father: William Jones
Mother: Sarah Jones
Birth Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale
Residence Place: Castleton, Lancashire, England
Registration District: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Nearer
ED, Institution or Vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 3331
Folio: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jones 33
Sarah Jones 33
Lillie Jones 6
John H Jones 4
Jessie Jones 2


JONES, JESSIE mmn HUDSON
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 31

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:10

Probably Lillie's birth:

JONES, LILLIE mmn HUDSON
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 29

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Dec 2020 16:06

1911 census

Thomas Birks
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Goole, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Search Photos: Search for 'Rochdale' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 24 Hare St Rochdale
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Flour Mill Draughtman
Registration District: Rochdale
Registration District Number: 470
Sub-registration District: Castleton No 1
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24613
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Birks 36
Lillie Birks 36

Married 1 year no children

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 16:01

Marriage - not in Wales:

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
BIRKS Thomas Rochdale 8e 70
JONES Lillie Rochdale 8e 70

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2020 15:58

For our reference:

Deaths Dec 1972 (>99%)
Birks Lillie 6JY1884 Banbury 6b 2484



Lillie Birks
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Lillie Birks
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 06/07/1884 (6 Jul 1884)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 12
Residence Place: Banbury Oxfordshire England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 28
Schedule Number: 42
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DYAE
Borough: Banbury
Registration district: 158-1.
Inferred Spouse:
Thomas Birks
Household Members Age
Thomas Birks 61 - 1/10/1878 - fitter, aluminium works
Lillie Birks 55

Valerie

Valerie Report 2 Dec 2020 15:50

Hi
I am trying to trace the family of a Lillian's Birks her married name (I believe her maiden name might have been Jones) and also trace her husband's family as well I think they may have got married in Newport Monmouthshire in 1914 not sure if they had any children
She was born 6/7/1884 and died 1972 in Banbury