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Mary Ann Potter (also known as Mary Ann Walters)

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Jesophat

Jesophat Report 13 Dec 2020 04:45

Born 1889 ,she was the first child of Rose Hannah Potter. Last known in 1911 on census as a brass driller. Family migrated to Western AUSTRALIA 1913/14. Don't know if Mary Ann went with them. Joseph Potter first, but don't know the name of the vessel and then beginning 1914 Rose and family followed. Mary doesn't show on the passenger manifest in 1914. In 1918 Joseph died and Mary Ann was listed on death cert.as surviving family member along with all the other kids. In 1922 Rose Hannah Potter ( nee Morgan) died and 2 (two) females listed as deceased. Alice Bertha Potter died in 1892 , born in 1891. All other females of the family have been located and listed EXCEPT Mary ANN so it is accepted that she was the second female deceased. I can't (and others), find any trace of Mary. Did she migrate with Joseph ? Did she go elsewhere? She obviously kept in touch with her parents (for the family to have entered that she had died prior to 1922), until she passed away, but where. Is there anybody who can scan death, marriages and immigration lists in depth or have any idea as to where else to look for her ? I did see a Mary Ann listed on the same vessel as Joseph Potter but as I was looking for my grandfather I didn't take any notice of the name. They left London for Colombo and Fremantle. I'm unable to find anything on BDM here in Australia. Would appreciate any assistance that can be afforded.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:25

Not picking up any of those names on ancestry

Where did they live in the uk

Some more birth dates would help

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:29

So this looks like rose and family

Mrs Rose Potter
in the Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
View Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930

Name: Mrs Rose Potter
Nationality or Origin: British
Arrival Date: 12 Feb 1914
Arrival Port: Fremantle
Departure Port: London; Cape Town
Vessel Name: Demosthenes


No ages given though. As it’s only incoming

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:36

So one child was a Frederick and identified his birth on the gro mmn Morgan

Is this the family

1901 census

Joseph Potter
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Rosannah Potter
Birth Place: All Saints, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Northfield
Search Photos: Search for 'Northfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Selly Oak St Mary
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Kings Norton
Sub-registration District: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2808
Folio: 29
Page Number: 49
Household Schedule Number: 291
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Potter 46
Rosannah Potter 34
Annie E Potter 20
Lilian F Potter 18
Ralph J Potter 16
Mary A Potter 11
Frederick Potter 5
Arthur Potter 4
Kathleen V M Potter 2
Ernest E Potter 1
Alice M J Potter 3/12

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:38

Looks correct family

Alice Maud Jessie Potter
Birth Year: abt 1901
Age: 59
Death Place: Western Australia
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Rose A
Registration Year: 1960
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number: 274

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:41

Soo all the younger children went to Australia but not Mary


Mary Potter
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Selly Oak, Worcestershire
Civil Parish: Northfield
Search Photos: Search for 'Northfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 55 Tiverton Road, Bournbrook, Selly Oak
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Brass Worker Drilling
Registration District: Kings Norton
Registration District Number: 383
Sub-registration District: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Piece: 17862
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Potter 58
Rose Potter 44
Fredrick Potter 15
Mary Potter 20
Arthur Potter 14
Kathleen Potter 12
Ernest Potter 11
Alice Potter 10
Percy Potter 3

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:42

Why would she also be known as Mary Ann Walters ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:53

Looking at some of the births seems some were from a previous marriage


ie

POTTER, RALPH JAMES ASHFIELD
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 246

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:55

So is this Mary Ann


WALTERS, MARY ANN MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 486


Mary Ann Walters
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Jan 1889
Christening Place: Madley, Herefordshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Theophilus Walters
Mother: Rose Walters


Theophilus Walters
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 762
Records on Page:
Name

Rose Morgan

Theophilus Walters

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 08:59

So both Joseph and rose seem to have been married before and both spouses were still alive after 1901

Did Joseph and rose live together and not married to each other ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 09:04

Maybe

Mary A Potter
Spouse Surname: Pountney
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Birmingham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 918
Records on Page:
Name
Benjamin Pountney

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 09:07

Benjamin Pountney
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: abt 1871
Registration Date: Oct 1931
[Nov 1931]
[Dec 1931]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Birmingham South
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 162

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Dec 2020 09:20

Not seeing a birth for Alice Bertha potter but!,,,,,,,


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WALTERS, ALICE BERTHA -
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 521

Deaths Sep 1892
Walters Alice Bertha 1 Merthyr T. 11a 296

So ties with the marriage to Theophilus