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Confusion!

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hotchoc

hotchoc Report 24 Feb 2021 08:58

Wow - Thank you so much everybody!!
You have really helped me to work this out and get answers!
You are truly amazing People!!
:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 17:16

Wife's death

Deaths Dec 1974 (>99%)
WHITMORE GERTRUDE MARY 5AU1885 EXETER 21 1205

Name: Gertrude Mary Whitmore
Death Date: 20 Dec 1974
Death Place: Exmouth Devon
Probate Date: 17 Mar 1975
Probate Registry: Bristol
Address 7, Portland Avenue, Exmouth

Died on my 5th wedding anniversary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 17:15

The poster said she had info up to and including 1911............................

malyon

malyon Report 23 Feb 2021 17:12

Ernest James Whitmore
England and Wales Census, 1911Name:
Ernest James Whitmore
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Merton, Surrey, England, United Kingdom
County:
Surrey
Parish:
Merton
Sub-District:
Mitcham
Sub-District Number:
6
District Number:
39
Enumeration District:
38
Registration District:
Croydon
Sex:
Male
Age:
38
Marital Status:
Single
Marital Status (Original):
SINGLE
Occupation:
CLERK
Industry:
GAS COMPANY
Number in Family:
4
Birth Year (Estimated):
1873
Birthplace:
Merton, Surrey
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Schedule Type:
57
Page Number:
1
Registration Number:
RG14
Piece/Folio:
115
Affiliate Record Identifier:
GBC/1911/RG14/03458/0115/3
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Whitmore Head Male 67 St Margarets Westminster, London
Mary Whitmore Wife Female 67 Charlwood, Surrey
Ernest James Whitmore Son Male 38 Merton, Surrey
Jane Elizabeth Cropper Servant Female 36 Carshalton, Surrey

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Feb 2021 17:09

E. J.
Last name Whitmore
Periodical Western Times
Location Exeter, Devon, England
Publication date 30 January 1931
Page number 7
Publication place Exeter, Devon, England
Other names J. Littlejohn, C. E. Bennett, W. Pook, H. Elliott, R. A. Browne, H. M. B. Ker, Arthur Snell, William Pook, Fred Parkin, Frank Parkin, Leslie Parkin
Record set People In The News
Category Directories & social history

burial of mother in law mrs a a upwright

safc

safc Report 23 Feb 2021 17:08

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
What can I do with this record?
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Ernest J Whitmore
Civil Marriage & Divorce Record
Devon, England
Year of marriage: 1920
First name(s) Ernest James
Last name Whitmore
Death year 1945
Death date 22 Aug 1945
Probate year 1946
Probate date 15 Jan 1946
Residence town -
Registry Llandudno
County Devon
Linked persons Gertrude Mary Whitmore
Country England
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

malyon

malyon Report 23 Feb 2021 17:07

Earnest J Whitmore
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
Earnest J Whitmore
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Merton, Surrey, England, United Kingdom
County:
Surrey
Civil Parish:
Merton
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Merton St Mary
Sub-District:
Mitcham
Registration District:
Croydon
Sex:
Male
Age:
28
Occupation:
COMMERCIAL CLERK
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Year (Estimated):
1873
Birthplace:
Merton, Surrey
Schedule Type:
21
Page Number:
4
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Whitmore Head Male 57 Westminster, London
Mary Whitmore Wife Female 57 Charlewood, Surrey
Earnest J Whitmore Son Male 28 Merton, Surrey
Minnie L Souch Servant Female 24 Chertsey, Surrey

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 17:06

Marriages Dec 1920 (>99%)
Upright Gertrude M Whitmore Exeter 5b 185
Whitmore Ernest J Upright Exeter 5b 185

safc

safc Report 23 Feb 2021 17:04

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Record Transcription:
Surrey Baptisms

First name(s) Ernest James
Last name Whitmore
Birth year 1873
Birth date 25 Mar 1873
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 08 Jun 1873
Place Merton, St Mary
Residence Fairlawn Villas Merton
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Surveyor
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Surrey
Country England
Archive Surrey History Centre
Archive reference 3185/1/6
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1846-1877
Page 161
Record set Surrey Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Feb 2021 17:03

to gertude mary whitmore
died in district hospital newqay
of hatherley woodway road teignmouth

Ernest James
Last name Whitmore
Death year 1945
Death date 22 Aug 1945
Probate year 1946
Probate date 15 Jan 1946
Residence town -
Registry Llandudno
County Devon
Linked persons Gertrude Mary Whitmore
Country England
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019

Ernest J
Last name Whitmore
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1920
Registration month -

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Ernest J Whitmore married one of these people

Gertrude M Upright
Spouse's last name Upright
District Exeter
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Volume as transcribed 5B
Page number 185

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 17:01

The 1926 death simply isn't possible - the man was alive in 1936

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 17:01

1939

The Elms Barn Park, Teignmouth, Teignmouth U.D., Devon, England
Ernest J Whitmore 25 Mar 1873 Male Store Supt Gas Light & Cot Lodnon Retired Married 190 1
Gertrude M Whitmore 05 Aug 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 190 2
Ada L Beales 19 Oct 1888 Female Millinery Saleswoman Single 190 3

malyon

malyon Report 23 Feb 2021 17:00

could be ernest but 1 year ut on birth has there is no birth for for year 1872

Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%)
Whitmore Ernest J 44 Wandsworth 1d 480

safc

safc Report 23 Feb 2021 16:58

1939 Register logo
The National Archives logo
Ernest J Whitmore's life in 1939
The Elms Barn Park, Teignmouth, Teignmouth U.D., Devon, England

the following potential record matches for the same person in other record sets
Ernest James Whitmore
Census Record
Surrey & London, England
Year of census: 1911
Ernest Whitmore
Census Record
London & Middlesex, England
Year of census: 1911
Ernest Whitmore
Census Record
Surrey, England
Year of census: 1911
Ernest J Whitmore
Civil Deaths & Burials Record
Cornwall, England
Year of death: 1945
Whitmore household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ernest J Whitmore 25 Mar 1873 Male Store Supt Gas Light & Cot Lodnon Retired Married 190 1
Gertrude M Whitmore 05 Aug 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 190 2
Ada L Beales 19 Oct 1888 Female Millinery Saleswoman Single 190 3

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Feb 2021 16:58

??????
1939
he Elms Barn Park, Teignmouth, Teignmouth U.D., Devon, England
Whitmore household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ernest J Whitmore 25 Mar 1873 Male Store Supt Gas Light & Cot Lodnon Retired Married 190 1
Gertrude M Whitmore 05 Aug 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 190 2
Ada L Beales 19 Oct 1888 Female Millinery Saleswoman Single 190 3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Feb 2021 16:51

Who registered the mother's death?

Being named in her Will doesn't necessarily mean he was alive .

EDIT

He was actually named as an Executor on the Probate record, so was alive in 1936.

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 23 Feb 2021 16:46

Ernest james whitmore b1873 Merton Surrey was single in the 1911 census and living with his parents William and mary (he worked for the gas company all his life)
His mother Mary died in 1936 Devon and he was named in the will.
I am looking for his death which i think i have found in St Austel Cornwal 1945.
but i need more evidence that its him, so was wondering if anyone could access any electoral roll? to see if there were any other names on there with him.
The thing is, there was another Ernest james whitmore born same year in Reigate who got married and had children and died in 1916 in WW1. But that Ernest is not mine, and people on ancestry have them mixed up.
I have nothing on him after 1936 in the will - any help would be great - Thank you x