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Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
DEATH, BURIAL, CEMETERY & OBITUARIES
Record information.
Name
Patrick Daniel Gorman
Birth
abt 1883
Death
1886 Poona


Can anyone advise please - I have just found the above on Ancestry - is there anyway of looking up the image for this?

Patrick was born in Poona on 12 Sep 1882 and baptised on 8 Oct 1882, his parents were Andrew and Catherine.

Thank you

Nicki

If there was no image on ancestry then doubt there wouid be further info

NO image on FMP
Had an image been available, no doubt Ancestry would have had it.

Thank you. There is an FHL Film No 101593 - any tips on how to access this would be appreciated.

Nicki

You can get his birth and death cert from the gro

Order as overseas

Birth

Patrick D
Last name Gorman
Sex Male
Birth year 1882
Place Poona
Country India
Regiment 15th Foot
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1882
Page 93
Volume 902
Line number 9
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, UK None




Patrick Daniel
Last name Gorman
Age at death 3
Birth year 1883
Registered year 1886
Registered quarter/year 1886
Registration district Overseas, Poona, India
Volume -
Page 4
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials


Baptism

Patrick D
Last name Gorman
Sex Male
Birth year 1882
Place Poona
Country India
Regiment 15th Foot
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1882
Page 11
Volume 903
Line number 11
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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Thank you - I will get them ordered.

Nicki

In normal times, one can rent an FHL film to view on-site at any given FHCentre.
One can find where FHCs are via
https://www.familysearch.org/help/fhcenters/locations/centerlocator
and phone them for more details.

mgnv - thank you for that info ;)

Good morning

So the death certificate for Patrick arrived today.

Sadly it had no parent info on it. Said the date of death was 16 Sep 1886 and that the child was 3 years old. So am guessing I have to assume it is not the right child as my Patrick was born on 12 Sep 1882 so the age is wrong.

Though the Adjt of the regiment who made the retrun was the Adjt of the right regiment.

There are three returns for this child with different references on fmp - do you think
that if I order the other two they may provide different information

Grateful for your thoughts/help please.

Will check back in mid-morning as just about to go on a work call.

Thanks

Nicki

The adjutant may simply have miscalculated, or mistaken, the child's age.

If the child is your Patrick, it was only four days after his 4th birthday, so in the heat of the moment, or if the parents weren't available for some reason when the adjutant had to give the information, it could be an easy mistake to make.

Re the different returns on FMP -

There is only one actual death cert, which you have, so that's the correct information - at least as correct as the informant believed it to be

The other FMP results are likely to be simply other transcriptions of the same death cert.
However, I'm not a FMP user, so only guessing.
If I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected.

The adjutant may have thought he was still 3 years old especially if he was hospitalised for a time before he passed

It’s so close I would be inclined to think it’s the right child

Thanks - I am going to assume it is the right Patrick.

The other 4 listings mentioned were different listings for his birth

Nicki

To be sure of his exact DOB you would need to buy the birth cert

He was definitely born in 1882, per the birth record posted by Shirley, but without the birth cert you don't know the exact darte..

I assume you've got the date of 12 Sept from the baptism record on Ancestry, but it's always possible that's inacurate or a mistranscription.

Hi, I got the dob from family search and also the baptism record. Will get on and order the birth cert - thanks for the advice.

Nicki

The DOB on FS is only on the baptism record, just as on Ancestry.