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ErikaH
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17 Jul 2021 11:00 |
New thread started
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1395042
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Ian
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24 Jun 2021 15:25 |
Hi All, Thanks again for your super help with my research I think I will close this topic for now. Kind regards Ian
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ErikaH
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24 Jun 2021 12:50 |
First name(s) Joan Last name Flitcroft Birth quarter 1 Birth year 1935 Mother's maiden name Glover District Carlisle
Marriages Sep 1934 (>99%) Flitcroft James Glover Carlisle 10b 1292 Glover Elizabeth Flitcroft Carlisle 10b 1292
1939 61 Welsh Road, Carlisle, Carlisle C.B., Cumberland, England Elizabeth Handley (Flitcroft) 16 Jul 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 269 1 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed. John Flitcroft 17 May 1938 Male Under School Age Single 269 4
Births Jun 1938 (>99%) Flitcroft John Glover Carlisle 10b 824
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Handley Gender Female Birth day 16 Birth month 7 Birth year 1915 Death quarter 2 Death year 1996 District Carlisle
Marriages Sep 1958 (>99%) FLITCROFT Elizabeth HANDLEY Carlisle 1a 144 HANDLEY Matthew J FLITCROFT Carlisle 1a 144
??? Deaths Dec 1953 (>99%) FLITCROFT James 51 Carlisle 1a 65
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jun 2021 10:01 |
She may well still be alive, at c86.
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Ian
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24 Jun 2021 02:16 |
A G The wife of John Jenkinson was Joan FLITCROFT b1935 they married in 1954 in Carlisle, England not found her death yet in Australia
Ian
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jun 2021 13:32 |
Good to get the jigsaw pieces in the right places, Ian!
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Ian
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23 Jun 2021 13:03 |
Hi A G Just found the family details for Sarah Jane Bates Salvona 1928 via Registrar in Scotland she kindly did a quick look-up for me. Sarah Jane Bates Jenkinson (Salvona) 1909 was her aunt.
Ian
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jun 2021 09:35 |
Thanks, GG.
There doesn't appear to be any memorial to her at Enfield Memorial Park, at least not as Jenkinson, and she's not among the various Jenkinsons for whom Ron has left flowers on Findagrave - but maybe her memorial hasn't been put on Findagrave yet, or maybe she remarried..
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greyghost
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22 Jun 2021 22:12 |
AG
Record from FMP (lucky, 1972 last available year)
John Jenkinson in 1972 South Australia Deaths 1842-1972 Woomera, Frome, South Australia, Australia
First name(s) John Last name Jenkinson Gender Male Status Married Birth year 1930 Death year 1972 Death date 13 Mar 1972 Age at death 42y Residence Elizabeth Field Place Woomera District Frome State South Australia Country Australia Registration number 158A/1845 Relative Wife Relative's first name(s) Joan Relative's last name Jenkinson Record set South Australia Deaths 1842-1972 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Australasia
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jun 2021 21:29 |
Posting just because I came across it - more about Sarah Jane 1909's brother John:
His marriage:
SALVONA JOHN HENRY THORBURN JANE 1922 685/11 50 Leith South
Mrs Jane Salvona [ and John H Salvona ] in the Edinburgh, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1832-1966 Name: Mrs Jane Salvona Residence Year: 1930 Street Address: Jane Street 13 A Residence Place: Edinburgh, Scotland
JH's birth:
SALVONA JOHN HENRY M 1900 692/1 285 Leith North
His death (already posted by ErikaH but repeating here):
SALVONA JOHN HENRY 85 mmn HUNTER 1985 581/ 125 Carluke
It's possible that Sarah 1928 is their daughter (if not a daughter of Sarah 1909 as previously suggested) - but only her birth cert would tell you
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jun 2021 21:14 |
Brown is, of course, a very common name.
However, it looks as if he's a son of Joseph Brown and Sarah Jane B Salvona (1928) who married in 1950 .
If you click on his name on the Findagrave website, you can send him a message.
He has added flowers to 1313 memorials, mainly of people who died in Australia.
It may just be coincidence, but two of those people seem to be his parents:
Joseph Lily Gillespie Brown Birth 1927 Death 26 Jun 2006 (aged 78–79) Burial Fremantle Cemetery Palmyra, Melville City, Western Australia, Australia Plot Lakes Small Bronze-Garden 2 Shrub-0032.
In loving memory of JLG (Joe) Brown. Loved husband of Sally. Loving father of Gary, Gordon, and Ronald. Dear Granda of Leanne, Rachael, Dannielle and Adam.
Last residence: Pinjarra, WA.
Sarah Jane Brown Birth 1928 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Death 25 May 1994 (aged 65–66) Burial Fremantle Cemetery Palmyra, Melville City, Western Australia, Australia Plot Lakes Small Bronze-Garden 2 Shrub-0032
In loving memory of Sarah (Sally) Brown. Loved wife of Joseph. Loving mother of Gary, Gordon and Ronald. Dear Nanna of Leanne, Rachael, Dannielle and Adam.
Last residence: Pinjarra, WA.
Joseph's birth:
BROWN JOSEPH LILY GIL. . . . . . . M 1927 685/11 86 Leith South
Sarah, Joseph, and Ronald are together at an address in Pinjarra on ER for 1977 - and probably other years which I haven't investigated.
Sarah Brown in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Sarah Brown Gender: Female Electoral Date: 1977 Electoral Place: Mandurah, Canning, Western Australia, Australia
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Ian
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22 Jun 2021 20:23 |
Hi Everyone, It been a really busy day for all of us what an amazing group this is.
I wonder what the family connection is for Ron Brown? He has been leaving flowers on several graves records
Very kind and considerate gesture indeed.
I have not come across the name before today.
regards Ian
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Ian
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22 Jun 2021 16:58 |
Big thank you to all for your wonderful help.
I have started to slowly work my way through all the family data.
kind regards Ian
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jun 2021 16:41 |
GG - what does the death record say, please? You said " . . it would appear he was married looking at the death record." - but I can't find it.
.Findagrave gives YOB as 1929:
John Jenkinson in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current Name: John Jenkinson Birth Date: 1929 Death Date: 13 Mar 1972 Death Place: Davoren Park, Playford City, South Australia, Australia Cemetery: Enfield Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Clearview, Port Adelaide Enfield City, South Australia, Australia Cremated remains returned to family.
Virtual flowers left by Ron Brown in 2019.
His parents' graves:
Sarah Jane Bates Jenkinson Birth 1909 Death 11 Aug 1978 (aged 68–69) Davoren Park, Playford City, South Australia, Australia Burial Enfield Memorial Park Clearview, Port Adelaide Enfield City, South Australia, Australia Plot Cremated Remains Returned to Family
Virtual flowers left by Ian Hanstock in 2019, and by Anonymous on 23 May 2018.
William Jenkinson Birth 1907 Death 8 Jun 1971 (aged 63–64) Smithfield Plains, Playford City, South Australia, Australia Burial Enfield Memorial Park Clearview, Port Adelaide Enfield City, South Australia, Australia Plot Cremated Remains Returned to Family
Virtual flowers left by Ron Brown in 2019, and by Anonymous on 23 May 2018.
Henry Domonic Salvona Jenkinson Birth 1932 Death 3 Mar 1998 (aged 65–66) Smithfield, Playford City, South Australia, Australia Burial Enfield Memorial Park Clearview, Port Adelaide Enfield City, South Australia, Australia Plot: Cremated Remains Returned to Family
Virtual flowers: Left by Ron Brown on 19 Jan 2019 Left by Anonymous on 23 May 2018
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ErikaH
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22 Jun 2021 14:29 |
AG
That makes sense about the later marriage - there is the extra initial which I overlooked
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greyghost
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22 Jun 2021 14:05 |
South Australia appears not to have records as up to date as other States online.
No ER's available, but it would appear he was married looking at the death record.
South Australia Deaths 1842-1972
Have a read here -
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/family-and-community/births-deaths-and-marriages/family-research
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greyghost
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22 Jun 2021 13:55 |
The State library of South Australia is contactable - says by phone or a Live chat at the click of a button - the Ask a Librarian Service. (I recently obtained a death cert. through their Victoria equivalent for a fee).
https://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/ask-us
They may be able to look at ERs for you which may throw up names of anyone at the same address.
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jun 2021 13:42 |
There are 4 possible births for John in Edinburgh:
JENKINSON JOHN M 1929 685/3 656 Canongate
JENKINSON JOHN M 1929 685/9 234 Portobello
JENKINSON JOHN M 1931 685/9 13 Leith North
JENKINSON JOHN M 1931 685/4 64 St Giles
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jun 2021 13:40 |
Mother's birth:
SALVONA SARAH JANE BATE F 1909 685/7 217 Portobello
She and William Jenkinson married 1929, as already posted.
Possibly a child born before marriage ???
SALVONA SARAH JANE BATE F 1928 685/11 266 Leith South
The 1950 marriage to Joseph Brown could be that child's marriage, rather than a remarriage for Sarah 1909.
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ErikaH
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22 Jun 2021 13:21 |
Have you tried looking on SP? I gave you the link.
He could, of course, have married anywhere................................
Getting his death cert is your best bet. Some info simply isn't avaialble without cost
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