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THREE LEGGED CROSS CRUTCHERS.

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Sheriden

Sheriden Report 14 Oct 2021 23:04

Hello

I am looking to trace any relatives that have connections with the ‘CRUTCHER’ family.
My father is Montagu Norman Crutcher born in Ringwood in 1931 to Ada Crutcher.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Sheriden

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 15 Oct 2021 08:51

Look at Search members trees to see if anyone has this name on a tree.

Use freebmd to find Normans birth and using his mothers name look for siblings.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2021 09:17

Connected threads:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1397660
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1397659
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1397768

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2021 11:12

As advised, look for bmd's using this free to search site from Q3 1837 to c1983 -
https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Montagu's birth -

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Crutcher Montagu N Crutcher Ringwood 2b 1108

You can also use this site - you have to register but searching births and deaths is free
https://www.gro.gov.uk

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CRUTCHER, MONTAGU NORMAN -
GRO Reference: 1931 J Quarter in RINGWOOD Volume 02B Page 1108

The second site comes into it's own in earlier years as it gives Mother's maiden name pre Q3 1911 and age at death pre mid 1860's. It also gives full middle names as opposed to just an initial.

Crutcher is an unusual name, this is the only birth of an Ada Crutcher showing

Ada's birth from the 2 sites -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
CRUTCHER Ada L R Wimborne 5a 215

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CRUTCHER, ADA LAURETTA ROSA OSMAN
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in WIMBORNE Volume 05A Page 213


And Ada's death not long after Montagu was born -

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
Crutcher Ada L 21 Bournemouth 2b 926

Name: Age at Death (in years):
CRUTCHER, ADA LAURETA 21
GRO Reference: 1931 D Quarter in BOURNEMOUTH AND CHRISTCHURCH Volume 02B Page 926

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 11:13

Ada is in two other GR trees..........try making contact. Be pro-active in your search

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 11:15

1911 Census For England & Wales
Three Cross Wimborne, Verwood, Dorset, England

Albert Edward Crutcher Head Married Male 33 1878 Dealer in china and ware Dorset Cranborne
Annie Louisa Crutcher Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Sussex Arundle
John Edward Crutcher Son - Male 7 1904 Scholar Dorset Cranborne
Ada Lawretta Crutcher Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Dorset Cranborne

7 children born in marriage - only 2 living

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2021 11:16

You can see that her Mother's maiden name was Osman

so look for a Crutcher/Osman marriage (there's only the 1)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Brown Mary Wimborne 5a 591
Crutcher Albert Edward Wimborne 5a 591 <<<<<<<
Osman Annie Louisa Wimborne 5a 591 <<<<<<<
Steel Jesse Wimborne 5a 591

You also know Ada's age, so you can see that she is old enough to show on the 1911 census and will hopefully be with parents and siblings

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 11:17

1939 Register
Stafford House, Three Legged Cross, Wimborne and Cranborne R.D., Dorset, England

Albert E Crutcher 22 Jun 1878 Male Market Gardener Fruit Grocer Married 38 1
Annie L Crutcher 05 May 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 38 2
Nora L Crutcher 24 Oct 1914 Female Land Worker Single 38 3
Violet M Crutcher 20 Nov 1916 Female Land Worker Single 38 4
Muriel Earwaker (Crutcher) 04 Mar 1918 Female Domestic Service Single 38 5
The record for this person is officially closed.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 11:18

Earwaker
Muriel
Born 1918
Died 1958
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Bournemouth,

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2021 11:21

ErikaH has posted the 1911 census with the information (found on the original not the transcript) that to this point Albert and Annie had had 7 children but only 2 were still alive.

You can check for the births and deaths of the others using the gro site and also check post Ada's birth for any further children to the marriage (several).

Then using the sites check for marriages of those children, births to those marriages etc etc coming forward.

Find her parents on earlier census to see if they had siblings and work those names through too.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2021 11:30

John Edward showing on the 1911 census was registered as Edward John at birth 1904 (so could have been born late 1903) and death 1969. don't see a marriage in England/Wales

He left a will, which went to probate - use this site -
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Costs £1.50 to buy a copy of the will from the site - it may give further insight into relatives. Older probate records will name executors - these are not necessarily beneficiaries.

EDIT violet Maud born 1917, died 1971 as Crutcher also has a Probate record

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 11:39

Name: Violet Maud Crutcher
Death Date: 13 Apr 1971
Death Place: Dorset
Probate Date: 18 Aug 1971
Probate Registry: Winchester


No record of a marriage for Muriel to Earwaker, although the 1939 gives a date in 1950

No Earwaker/Crutcher births on freebmd


This is from an Ancestry tree -

Spouse Kenneth William Harbridge
Father Albert Edward Crutcher
Mother Annie Louisa Osman
Birth 24 Oct 1914 Wimborne,
Death 25 Feb 1968 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England


Marriages Mar 1957 (>99%)
CRUTCHER Norah L HARBRIDGE Wycombe 6a 1296
HARBRIDGE Kenneth W CRUTCHER Wycombe 6a 1296

NO children

Deaths Mar 1968 (>99%)
HARBRIDGE NORA L 53 BOURNEMOUTH 6B 186

Name: Nora Lorraine Harbridge
Death Date: 25 Feb 1968
Death Place: Bournemouth
Probate Date: 28 Mar 1968
Probate Registry: Winchester


Deaths Sep 1974 (>99%)
HARBRIDGE KENNETH WILLIAM 23MR1909 BOURNEMOUTH 23 355

Name: Kenneth William Harbridge
Death Date: 14 Jul 1974
Death Place: Bournemouth
Probate Date: 23 Aug 1974
Probate Registry: Winchester

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2021 11:46

Possible marriage for Nora - spelt Norah?

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1957 (>99%)

CRUTCHER Norah L HARBRIDGE Wycombe 6a 1296
HARBRIDGE Kenneth W CRUTCHER Wycombe 6a 1296


and her death
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1968 (>99%)
HARBRIDGE NORA L 53 BOURNEMOUTH 6B 186

there's a probate record for her too - Nora Lorraine

Let you chase the rest yourself now.

EDIT - ErikaH has added to her post above

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2021 12:29

1939 Register
27 North Poulner Road, Ringwood, Ringwood and Fordingbridge R.D., Hampshire, England

Edward J Crutcher 26 Nov 1903 Male Haulage Contractor And Market Gardener Married 309 1
William M Crutcher 16 Mar 1904 Male Fruiterer - Employer Married 309 2**************************
Kathleen O J Lewis (Crutcher) 26 Mar 1929 Female At School Single 309 3
The record for this person is officially closed.

**************Lillian M - female. Corrections submitted

Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
Crutcher Kathleen D J Bailey Wimborne 5a 313


Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
BAILEY Lillian M CRUTCHER Wimborne 5a 618
Crutcher Edward J Bailey Wimborne 5a 618

Marriages Mar 1955 (>99%)
CRUTCHER Kathleen D J LEWIS Poole 6a 1450
LEWIS Alfred E CRUTCHER Poole 6a 1450

Lewis
Kathleen Dorothy J
1929
1992
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Bournemouth, Dorset, England

One child of the Lewis/Crutcher marriage - info on freebmd