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Soloman Hart and His Dutch Parents

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LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 May 2022 14:48

The following are the transcripts of the vital records for the Solomon de Hart born 1816 that you refer to, both transcript and images are on FamilySearch:

Birth
Name Salomon de Hart
Birth Date 17 Apr 1816
Birth Date 17 Apr 1816
Birthplace Rotterdam
Birthplace Rotterdam, South Holland, Netherlands
Birthplace (Original) Rotterdam
Father's Name Machiel Meijer de Hart
Mother's Name Betje Sweit
Event Type Birth
Document Number a151


This however is the death of that child so, sadly, it cannot be the Solomon that you are looking for! Back to the drawing board!

Name Salomon De Hart
Age ruim 6 mnd (more than 6 months)
Death Date 16 Nov 1816
Death Place Rotterdam, South Holland, Netherlands
Death Place (Original) Rotterdam
Birthplace Rotterdam
Father's Name Michiel Meijer De Hart
Mother's Name Betje Suijt
Event Type Death

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 May 2022 18:06

Solomon is around in 1871 shown as age 53 born 1818
(Margaret is a widow in 1881)

Age at death would indicate b 1819/1820 if accurate

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1877 (>99%)
Hart Solomon 58 W. Derby 8b 340

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 May 2022 17:51

For our info -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stanley Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Solomon Hart Head Married Male 31 1820 French polisher Holland
Margaret Hart Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Hannah Hart Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Samuel E Hart Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Hart Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Solomon Hart Son - Male 2 1849 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jessie Hart Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

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Looking at the original 1861 census -
it gives his place of birth as Amsterdam <<<<<<<<<<<
and what looks like Natsalpet above

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
11, Stanley Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Solomon Hart Head Married Male 44 1817 Furniture broker -
Margaret Hart Wife - Female 44 1817 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Hannah Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Samuel Evan Hart Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Commercial clerk Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Hart Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Groom assistant Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Solomon Hart Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jessie Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Henry Hart Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Amelia Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rosetta Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Hertz Hart Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2022 17:51

The Groom was using the name 'Hart' so would be the same for his father..

You will need to investigate Dutch fmily history research to find anything more. If the Groom Soloman became a British Subject then there may be more information on the document - try the National Archives.

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 27 May 2022 17:23

Hello All

This is my 4 x Great Grand father and his marriage to Margaret Evans in Liverpool

Source citation for England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
View record
Name: Soloman Hart
Gende: Male
Marriage Date1 Oct 1839
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Soloman Hart
Spouse: Margaret Evans

I have 13 DNA Matches that go back to this couple so I know they are my 4 x G Parents.

When I view the DNA matches some have the same parents some are blank and some have Solomon as his father. But the common one is this couple below.

Netherlands, Birth Index, 1784-1917 Source info
Birth, Marriage & Death
Quick compare

Name Salomon De Hart Different
Birth 1816 Rotterdam Different
Residence 1816 New
Father Machiel Meijer De Hart New
Mother Betje Swei


How ever the marriage for Soloman and Margaret Evans lists his father as a Soloman Hart as well. This does not match up to what a lot of people have in their trees. I know many people do copy other peoples trees without the verification.

I wondered if he just put Solomon down on the marriage for convivence and that this couple is his parents.

I have the census from 1841 onwards for my 4x GGparents so not looking for those just want some help looking at his parents. Any help appreciated.