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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2024 11:55 |
Name George Kenrick..............widower Gender Male Marriage Age Full Age Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 22 Mar 1875 Marriage Place Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Father Hugh Kenrick Spouse Catherine Thomas...........widow Father Thomas Davies
Name Maria Kendrick Death Age 38 Record Type Burial Birth Date 1828 Death Date abt 1866 Burial Date 31 Dec 1866 Burial Place Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Page number 195
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2024 11:22 |
Name George Kendrick........Father not named Gender Male Marriage Age Full Age Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 15 Dec 1851 Marriage Place Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Spouse Maria Foulkes Father: Moses Foulkes, Miner Page number 247 Witnesses: Margaret Kendrick and Robert Parry
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Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%) FOULKES Maria Wrexham 27 492 RENRICK George Wrexham 27 492
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25 Mar 2024 11:12 |
Name Hugh Kendrick Baptism Age 0 Record Type Baptism Birth Date 1852 Baptism Date 30 May 1852 Baptism Place Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Father George Kendrick Mother Maria Kendrick Page number 95
Sarah Kendrick Baptism 23 Jan 1859 Brymbo George, Maria
Moses Kendrick Baptism 1 Feb 1863 Brymbo George, Mariah
William Kendrick Baptism 31 May 1863 Brymbo George, Mariah
Peter Kendrick Baptism 17 Feb 1867 Brymbo George, Mariah
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ErikaH
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24 Mar 2024 13:30 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Harwood, Brymbo, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
George Kendrick Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Collier Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Thomas Boyar Head Married Male 35 1816 Enginerer Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Sarah Boyar Wife Married Female 39 1812 Enginerer wife Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales
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24 Mar 2024 10:30 |
This is one of those occasions where you need to plan out a tree of George’s ancestors, his descendants and any siblings descendants and then see if a dna test gives you any matches to those families.
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24 Mar 2024 08:53 |
Cynthia - have you researched your father's mother at all? I'm just wondering where she might have met George, if he was indeed your grandfather.
Is this her birth?
OAKLEY, EMILY MAY mmn GOODWIN GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in FORDEN Volume 11B Page 167
If so, according to the 1901 census, she was born in Chirbury, which is approx. 21 miles from Wrexham. In 1911, she's working in Prestwich, Lancs, (mistranscribed as Emily Ivy on Ancestry) and her birthplace is given (by her employer) as Condover, Shropshire - about 20 miles from Chirbury, and not in the Forden reg district.
She must have moved to Oswestry area by 1915, as your father was born there in 1916, and she married there in 1918.
Although, as Sylvia says, not everything on BDM certs, etc, is necessarily true, the name George Stanley Kendrick seems a very specific name to give as your father's father if it wasn't true. Who would have given that name to the Waifs & Strays people? Emily? Or had your father been in a children's home before that?
He's not with Emily and two daughters (one illegitimate, one from her marriage) in 1921 - living in Wigan.
George Kendrick in the UK, British Army World War I Pension Records 1914-1920 Name George Kendrick Gender Male Residence Age 28 Birth Date abt 1884 Birth Place Bensham, Denbighshire, Wales [ Bersham ] Document Year 1912 Regiment Name The Royal Welsh (Welch) Fusiliers Regimental Number 7012 Number of Images 5 Household List (Name) Relation to Soldier George Kendrick Mrs Kendrick Wife
Height: 5ft 4.75 ins Physically well developed. Address: 15 Bank Street, Southsea, Wrexham.
Discharged 17/11/1914, as being "medically unfit for further service".
So presumably in 1915 he was back home in Southsea..
Oswestry and Wrexham are only about 16 miles apart, so Emily could well have met him - at some wartime social event, perhaps. She wasn't necessarily living in Oswestry itself - just somewhere in that reg district, and maybe nearer to Southsea. Does your father's birth cert give Emily's address?
BUT there's no proof, as he's not named on your father's birth cert.
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23 Mar 2024 22:59 |
Surely one still has to be a little uncertain even though it was on the CofE Waif and Strays ............... after all, the only person certain to be the truly connected to a baby is the mother!
It's the same as any birth certificate, marriage certificate or death certificate ............. only certain information is true and accurate!
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23 Mar 2024 19:16 |
Thank you, that is good evidence.
Have you looked at Search/ search all members trees to see if anyone has him in their tree - that is if you want to contact family.
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Cynthia
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23 Mar 2024 17:32 |
The unknown father’s name was identified on documents received from The Church of England Waif and Strays. My father who was born in 1916 was placed in Barnardos Home for boys.
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:30 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%) Arthur William Liverpool 20 293 BROWN Isabella Liverpool 20 293 CRUMBY Bernard Liverpool 20 293 Edwards Ann Liverpool 20 293 GUNDERSON Louisa Liverpool 20 293 JONES Catherine Liverpool 20 293 <<<<<<<<< Kindrick George Liverpool 20 293 <<<<<<<< Rourke John Liverpool 20 293
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:29 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Harwood, Brymbo, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Kendrick Lodger Unmarried Male 20 1831 Collier Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Thomas Boyar Head Married Male 35 1816 Enginerer Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Sarah Boyar Wife Married Female 39 1812 Enginerer wife Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales
--------------------------- Denbighshire Marriages And Banns Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Thomas Last name Bowyer Age Full Marriage year 1841 Marriage date 05 Jul 1841 Marriage place Wrexham Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Bowyer Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Kenrick Spouse's age Full Spouse's father's first name(s) James Spouse's father's last name Reynolds County Denbighshire Country Wales Event Marriage Event type Marriages Event year range 1837-1841 Page 244 Record set Denbighshire Marriages And Banns Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Wales, Great Britain
From original - Thomas a Bachelor, an Engineer of Brymbo Sarah a widow , a Cottager of Brymbo, Father a Machine Man. Witnesses - James jones and Margaret Griffiths
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ArgyllGran
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23 Mar 2024 17:28 |
George Stanley Kendrick in the Denbighshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1556-1994 Name George Stanley Kendrick Gender Male Marriage Age 22 Record Type Marriage Birth Date 1884 Marriage Date 2 Jul 1906 Marriage Place Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Father Henry Stanley Kendrick - deceased, coal merchant Spouse Maggie Arnold Page number 235
??? Can't see a birth of George Stanley Kendrick -
KENDRICK, GEORGE - GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 286
Perhaps Henry Stanley Kendrick is an invented father ???
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23 Mar 2024 17:24 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census South Sea, Bersham, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Kendrick Head Married Male 50 1831 Coalminer Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Catherine Kendrick Wife Married Female 50 1831 Coal miner wife Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Sarah Kendrick Mother Widow Female 78 1803 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Thomas Kendrick Son Single Male 24 1857 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales William Kendrick Son Single Male 20 1861 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales
----------------------------------- 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Globe Inn, Broughton, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Kendrick Head - Male 41 1830 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Hugh Kendrick Son - Male 19 1852 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales George Kendrick Son - Male 17 1854 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Thomas Kendrick Son - Male 15 1856 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Sarah Kendrick Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales William Kendrick Son - Male 10 1861 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Sarah Bowyer Mother-in-law - Female 58 1813 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales
---------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: KENRICK, HUGH FAULKS GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 278
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FOULKES Maria Wrexham 27 492 RENRICK George Wrexham 27 492
Certificate on FMP - George's surname looks like Renrick under name and surname but Kendrick where he made his mark ! married Dec 15th at the Parish Church in Wrexham. both of full age George a Collier of Brymbo, no Father named Maria a servant of Brymbo, Father Moses Foulkes a Miner. Witnesses - Robert ? Parry and Margaret Kendrick
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:14 |
His birth certificate will show you his Mother's name - presume a daughter of the Grandparents he is with in 1891
Possibly his birth - no Mother's maiden name
KENDRICK, GEORGE - GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 286
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:09 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wrights Houses, 1, Southsea, Bersham, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Kendrick Head Married Male 60 1831 Coal miner Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Catherine Kendrick Wife Married Female 67 1824 - Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales George Kendrick Grandson - Male 8 1883 Scholar Bersham, Denbighshire, Wales
---------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 16, High Street, Southsea, Bersham, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Kendrick Head Married Male 43 1858 Coal miner hewer Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Annie Kendrick Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Ellen Kendrick Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Maria Kendrick Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Southsea, Denbighshire, Wales Edward Kendrick Son - Male 8 1893 - Southsea, Denbighshire, Wales George S Kendrick Father Widower Male 72 1829 Coal miner byeman Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales George Kendrick Nephew Single Male 19 1882 Coal miner waggoner Southsea, Denbighshire, Wales
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:06 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 11 the Walks Pentrefelin Wrexham, Wrexham Regis, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Stanley Hendrick Head Married Male 27 1884 Colliery labourer surface South Sea Denbighsire Maggie Hendrick Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Gwersyllt Dembirghsire Alice Frances Hendrick Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Wrexham Denbrighsire
Married 5 years. 3 children born, 2 have died 1 still living
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 17:04 |
Other Kendrick/Arnold births
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: KENDRICK, SARAH ELIZABETH ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 263 KENDRICK, WINIFRED ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 232 Deaths of those siblings -
Name: Age at Death (in years): KENDRICK, SARAH ELIZABETH 0 GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 167
KENDRICK, WINIFRED 0 GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 197
Not seeing further births
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greyghost
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23 Mar 2024 16:56 |
Arthur's name is written badly on the original and has been transcribed as Oliver. Alice's DOB as per death record.
1939 Register 10 Percy Road, Wrexham, Wrexham M.B., Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Oliver Parker 13 Dec 1906 Male Engineer Fitter Married 25 1 Alice F Parker 02 Jun 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties & Shop Assistant Married 25 2 Wilfred Parker 22 Nov 1908 Male Gentlemen's Hairdresser Single 25 3 Lawrence May 07 Dec 1913 Male Soap Manufacturers Salesman (Wholesale) Single 25 4
It looks like the family stayed in Wrexham. There are no Parker/Kendrick births in that area
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23 Mar 2024 16:55 |
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Glyndwr, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Alice Frances County Denbighshire Last name Parker Volume 24 Sex Female Page 0439 Birth day 2 Country Wales Birth month 6 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Birth year 1908 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 4 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1983 Collections from Great Britain, Wales District Glyndwr
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Mar 2024 16:50 |
First name(s) William N Country England Last name Oakley Volume 6A Birth quarter 2 Page 1113 Birth year 1916 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Oakley Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Oswestry Subcategory Civil Births County Shropshire Collections from Great Britain, England © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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