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My name is Anne Palmer. I have been building my family tree and on my fathers side have made good progress. Not quite so on my mothers side. I have always know my mother was “given” in December 1910 to a friend by her mother when she was two weeks old but am not aware of any paperwork confirming this. My understanding was she was originally either from Yorkshire or possibly the Midlands, not the case it seems.

My son very kindly bought me an Ancestry DNA kit for Christmas and I undertook the test. The result gave me quite a shock. As expected I am half Yorkshire on my father’s side, with a few extra bits thrown in. To my amazement I also came out as being half Irish, totally unexpected. Sadly I have no information at all on this Irish connection. I have to assume both my mothers parents were from Ireland and according to Ancestry from the central area of Leinster. I have opened up my DNA results to others and this has come up with a number of third cousins. I can only assume that they are, potentially, the children of my mother’s parents’ siblings.

It is a real long shot I know but I am wondering if anyone out there might have any information or recollection of a relative who gave a baby away in December 1910. The little I know of the circumstances is that my grandmother knew she was not very well during the pregnancy and that she had arranged with her good friend that if anything happened to her, the friend would look after the baby. My grandmother sadly died when my mother was just two weeks old and my mum was given to my Grandma Fearnside and brought up by her, and with her surname. I do not know where they lived at the time.

It is my understanding that there were siblings but I don’t know whether brothers or sisters or how many. I also understand that there may have been some abuse from her father which influenced my mother being given away.

When did your parents marry? And where?

What were their names at the time?

What was the forename of Grandma Fearnside?

Can't look for her without it............. ;-) ;-)

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Welcome to Genes and the boards.

Ancestry can tell you how much irishness you get from each parent. Go to your Ethnicity Estimates then to discover your origins. Scroll down past regions and you can sort your dna by parent.

If both unknown parents were Irish you would be 50% Irish- higher if your other side also had Irish ancestry.

Adoptions were not done under legal constricts in those days - so only dna can lead you o possible family.

Your third cousins would be descendants of shared great grandparents. A bit of a distance if you have no idea you you are looking for. Hopefully one day someone a bit closer will test.

The children of your mother’s siblings would be your first cousins.

Use the colour coding on your matches under add/ edit group and with the help of shared matches you may start finding a group that may help.

Added; Ancestry make a guess at the relationship by looking at the number of cms your matches have. This is not always accurate and can be 'out' by a whole number eg. person is really a 2nd cousin rather than a 3rd . Add in x removed and it can get even odder.

Unless Annes dna test shows a connection to the Fearnside family there is no relevance of that family or Annes parents marriage to her query.

The question is only who were the natural parents..

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We need names from the OP if we are to have any hope of trying to help.

The first name and birth year of Grandma Fearnside would be a good start. She should be on 1911 census

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Anne’s mother was given away in the December so is likely born around late1910. Her natural mother was ill during the pregnancy and arranged for a friend to look after the baby. The natural mother died and the baby was given to Granny Fearnside who gave the baby her own family name.
So Granny Fearnside is very unlikely to be related according to the op. We do not need to know who she was.
What Ann wants to know is who are the natural parents. Unless some documents are found ( stored in the proverbial suitcase in the attic) dna is the only answer.

Thanks for the responses.
Anne's parents were Robert Lupton and Mary Eileen Fearnside(s), not sure about the 's'. They were married in North Bierly, Bradford in April 1937. There has also been a suggestion of 1 June 1936 but this not confirmed.

Grandma Fearnside(s) was called Mary. There is no obvious DNA link to her.

The ancestry DNA has me at almost 50% Irish, looking towards Leinster as the area from which it originated

I will have a closer look at the DNA results to see what may come out.

Thanks again

Thanks for coming back. Don’t forget to look at the matches matches - seems daft, but it sometimes helps.
The natural parents may not have themselves come from Leinster it is just where data has led Ancestry.

Although my own irish Ancestry is 200 years back I get quite a lot of Irish matches on My Heritage. It might be worth having a look to see how you can upload your results - although I think there is a charge.

Good luck

Ignore ‘suggestions’ about marriage date…….look for the registration.

It is on freebmd and is in 2nd qtr of 1937

Mary Eileen Lupton is shown in 1939 as having a birth date of 8th December 1911

Grandma is with the couple with a birth date of 13th April 1869.

In 1921, the child is recorded as Eileen, and is said to have been born in BRADFORD, given age 10years 6months - THUS born Dec 1910

Samuel and Mary do not have a child with them in 1911. They have been married 14 years and have not had any live births during the marriage

On all records, the surname is FearnsideS

On her death registration, Mary Eileen’s birth date is given as 8th December 1910

Agree Margery Holmes Fearnside is not relevant

If the correct birth date was 1910, the child could not have been handed to the Fearnsides at the age of two weeks. She was not with them in March 1911, when the census was taken.
There must have been a delay - IF the mother died when the infant was two weeks old

So the 1911 birth date could well be correct.

How you expect to find the natural parents this way is beyond me :-S

Transcription referred to earlier.....................for INFO, as OP stated she didn't know where they lived

1921 Census Of England & Wales
11, Anderson Street, Wilsden, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Samuel Fearnsides Head Male 1873 47 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Warhouseman Isaac Hodins Sons Ltd Employer
Mary Fearnsides Wife Female 1869 52 Staffordshire, Staffordshire, England House Work -
Eileen Fearnsides Daughter Female 1911 10 Bradford, Yorkshire, England - -
Ronald Greaves Visitor Male 1920 1 Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Thanks for help to date but still no success. Only additional information to appear is that Mary Fearnsides maiden name was Gossage