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Terence
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17 Nov 2024 14:57 |
Hi. A bit of a long winded call for help.After finding a copy of a trial of a bigamous woman Stella Toft, 45, of Manchester, in the Northern Daily Mail in August . 1941 which says she knowingly went through a form of marriage, at Greatham Parish Church with George Crowe,29,of Greatham Village After guilt caught up with her she went to the local police and handed her self in. . I have been unable to trace the family background of George Crowe or his family. My wifes mother's maiden name was Crowe and it is very likely that George would be a family member . Any help would be very appreciated,yours Terry Liddle
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ErikaH
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17 Nov 2024 15:13 |
Have you looked at 1939 register? And 1921 census?
Or at freebmd?
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Terence
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17 Nov 2024 15:20 |
Sorry.Don't have access to 1939 register. Terry L.
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ErikaH
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17 Nov 2024 15:37 |
He was a Wood Machinist of Stockton. It helps if you give ALL info!!
On 1939 he is with Allard Crowe 27/031884 and Emma E 13/06/1886 at Vicarage Row Greatham
DoB 20/08/1912
Same address in 1921
Now do the research using freebmd
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ErikaH
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17 Nov 2024 15:38 |
Allard is in two GR trees…..neither of them yours
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greyghost
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17 Nov 2024 15:41 |
Was your wife's family from the same area, there must be more than one area which has the Crowe name.
There are over 5000 people with the surname on the 1921 census
Looking at the newspaper report it is from the Hartlepool papers so, the Greatham in Durham then -
Aged 29 in 1941 he should be on the 1921 census -
1921 Census Of England & Wales Vicarage Row, Greatham, Durham, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Allard Crowe Head Male 1884 37 Greatham, Durham, England Joiner Carpenter G W H Carter Brick Works Cowpen Bewley Emma Elenor Crowe Wife Female 1886 35 Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Home Duties - George Crowe Son Male 1912 8 Greatham, Durham, England - - Annie Margaret Crowe Daughter Female 1909 11 Greatham, Durham, England - - James Benjamin Blake Visitor Male 1897 24 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Auctioneer Own Account Ethel Engenie Blake Visitor Female 1892 29 Manchester, Lancashire, England Revue Artiste Harry Day Variety Agents
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17 Nov 2024 15:42 |
1939 Register Vicarage Road, Greatham, Stockton R.D., Durham, England
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Allard Crowe 22 Mar 1884 Male General Joiner Married 164 1 Emma E Crowe 13 Jun 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 164 2 George Crowe 20 Aug 1912 Male Wood Cutting Machinist Single 164 3
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ErikaH
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17 Nov 2024 15:44 |
He died in 1984
Have you researched - thoroughly - your wife’s mother;s family?
If so, one would have thought you’d have found the connection - if one exists
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Terence
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17 Nov 2024 15:55 |
Thank you very much for your help.It looks as tho' George is related to my Mother in Laws family.
Terry L.
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17 Nov 2024 15:56 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) BLABER Emma Eleanor Newcastle T. 10b 34 BRYDEN Lewis Montgomery Newcastle T. 10b 34 CROWE Allard Newcastle T. 10b 34 THOMSON Eleanor Newcastle T. 10b 34
------------------------- Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Crowe George Blake Hartlepool 10a 208
Hartlepool RD was the RD which covered Greatham in 1912 ------------------------------------------
I don't see a Blaber/Blake marriage. am wondering if a badly written Blake could be transcribed as Blaber ?
Probably !! Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Sep 1886 (>99%) Blake Emma Eleanor Newcastle T. 10b 80a
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Jink20
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17 Nov 2024 18:23 |
Full Name Crowe, Allard Rank Name Private Regiment Number 5225, 201622 NA Url /details/r/D2026473 NA Years 1914-1920 Regiment Durham Light Infantry Archive Reference WO 372/5/109904 Conflict Period World War I Served For United Kingdom award Victory Medal award British War Medals
UK, WWI, British Army Service Records, 1914-1920
Marriage Date 31 May 1909 Marriage Place Greatham Residence Greatham, Stockton On Tees Age 31 Gender Male Application Year 1915 Regiment ??oinad From Army Reserve C?? Regiment Number 5225 Additional Regiment Number 201622
Beake, Emma Eleanor (could be Blake, handwriting) Relationship Spouse Married Parish Church ?yrer or ?y?er
Name Crowe, George 20 Aug 1912 Birth Place Greatham Relationship Child
Name Crowe, Annie 20 Nov 1909 Birth Place Greatham Relationship Child
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Jink20
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17 Nov 2024 18:43 |
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Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%) Crowe Annie M Collins Hartlepool 10a 235
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17 Nov 2024 18:55 |
Ancestry tree
Annie Margaret Crowe 1909–1973 Birth 30 NOV 1909 • Hartlepool, Durham, England Death OCT 1973 • Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Spouse
Harold Collins 1908–2004 Birth 30 DEC 1908 • W Hpool, Durham, England Death JUL 2004 • Exeter, Devon, England
1939 England and Wales Register for Harold Collins 28 Model Village Southam Rd Warwickshire Qfiy
Likely one Daughter born W Hpool 1941 (FreeBMD)
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17 Nov 2024 19:18 |
Ancestry tree- Please use own research to verify..
Allard Crowe 1884–1964 Birth 22 MAR 1884 • Greatham, Durham, England Death 25 JAN 1964 • Hartlepool, England
Parents George Crowe 1851–1932
Ann Lund 1845–1897
Siblings
Jane Ellen Crowe 1873–1957
Isabella Gertrude Crowe 1875–1953
Ellen Georgina Crowe 1879–1937
Annie Crowe 1881–1914
George Crowe 1882–1965
Ernest Crowe 1886–1886 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Crowe 1851–1932 Birth 1851 • Greatham, Durham, England Death 18 NOV 1932 • Greatham, Durham, England
Parents Robert Crowe 1819–1887
Ellen Tinkler 1819–1880
Siblings
Margaret Crowe 1847–
Thomas Crowe 1857–
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Jink20
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17 Nov 2024 19:23 |
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/205670315/george-crowe
George Crowe Birth 1851 Greatham, Hartlepool Unitary Authority, County Durham, England
Death 18 Nov 1932 (aged 80–81) Hartlepool Unitary Authority, County Durham, England
Burial Greatham Cemetery Greatham, Hartlepool Unitary Authority, County Durham, England
Wife Emily
Children George Crowe Ernest Crowe Annie Crowe Ellen Georgina Crowe
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Terence
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18 Nov 2024 16:02 |
Thanks again to everybody for all this information.I do believe Allard and family are related to my Mother-in-Laws family but as yet haven't found proof.
Thanks again,Terry L.
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ErikaH
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18 Nov 2024 17:26 |
It will an interesting exercise for you to try to prove the link. Good luck
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