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Hi

i am trying to trace Great Grandparents but getting no where fast and think i am at the point where i cant see for looking

i have my Grandfathers details
Raymond Douglas Cheshire
DOB:07/04/1926 Portsmouth
Died: May 2005 Hereford
Mothers Maiden Name: Barnett

but thats all i can seem to find, trying to locate his military details so trying to gather all info i can, i am wondering could he have been adopted

any tips would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Posting what I find.....

CHESHIRE, RAYMOND DOUGLAS
GRO Reference: 1926 J Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 668

Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
CHESHIRE Raymond D Barnett Portsmouth 2b 668

Parents ????

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
BARNETT Nellie Portsmouth 2b 1123
CHESHIRE Charles Portsmouth 2b 1123

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Also, if he had been adopted, there would be no record of mother’s maiden name in the public domain

Nellie Cheshire, widow, is on 1939 Register with one closed record - in Chichester, with family headed by William Barnett (brother??)

In 1921, aged 40, she is again with William Barnett, but this time Charles aged 71 is there also (born Scotland) and two daughters, one born 1902, the other 1908

Charles’s death is recorded in Portsmouth in JFM 1939, aged 89

1911 census the Cheshires are in Portsmouth……….head is a Licensed Victualler, born Edinburgh

The daughter born 1902 was almost certainly registered as Dorothy May Barnett…….check GRO index

Winifred Jessie Cheshire was registered JFM 1908

EDITED 11.12am...confirming illegitimacy

BARNETT, DOROTHY MAY -
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in EAST PRESTON Volume 02B Page 359

CHESHIRE, NELLIE GWENDOLINE BARNETT
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 451
CHESHIRE, WINIFRED JESSIE BARNETT
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 459

death
CHESHIRE, NELLIE GWENDOLINE 5
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 517

CHESHIRE, ALBERT ROY BARNETT
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 451

death
CHESHIRE, ALBERT ROY 0
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 307

Possible baptism for Charles Cheshire

DoB 29.07.1849
Baptised Edinburgh 10.12.1855
Father Benjamin, occupation, Butler, mother Janet Sandilands

His marriage cert will confirm father’s name and occupation

Ellen Barnett
in the West Sussex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920

Name Ellen Barnett
Gender Female
Birth Date 17 Jun 1881
Baptism Date 4 Sep 1881
Baptism Place East Preston, Sussex, England
Parish as it Appears East Preston
Father Thomas Barnett
Mother Mary Ann Barnett

Ellen Barnett
in the 1891 England Census

School House, East Preston

Thomas Barnett 42 Head Agricultural Labourer
Mary A Barnett 44 Wife
Thomas G Barnett 11 Son
Ellen Barnett 9 Daughter
Winifred M Barnett 8 Daughter
William H Barnett 6 Son
Albert J Barnett 4 Son
Emma L Barnett 2 Daughter

Name Thomas Barnett
Birth Date 1849
Death Date May 1916
Cemetery St Peter and St Paul Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place Rustington, Arun District, West Sussex, England
Has Bio? N
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260181916/thomas-barnett

Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)
Cheshire Winifred J Pannell Portsmouth 2b 993 S
Pannell Percy W Cheshire Portsmouth 2b 993

1939 Register
13 Seaway Grove, Portsmouth, Fareham U.D., Hampshire, England

Winifred J Pannell 05 Mar 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 179 1
Joyce W (Winifred) Pannell 07 Sep 1929 Female At School Single 179 2


Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
Pannell Joyce W Cheshire Portsmouth 2b 591
Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
Pannell Percy C Cheshire Portsmouth 2b 687

Name Walter Percy Pannell
Birth Date 21 Apr 1904
Enlistment Date 26 Jan 1923
Division Royal Marine Light Infantry: Portsmouth Division
Register Number 21775

Name Walter Percy Pannell
Medal or Award RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal
Service Year 1935-1940
Ship Name Courageous

Name Walter Percy Pannell
Death Age 76
Birth Date 21 Apr 1904
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Registration district Launceston
Inferred County Cornwall
Volume 21
Page 0279

Name Winifred Jessie Pannell
Death Age 82
Birth Date 5 Mar 1908
Registration Date Mar 1990
Registration district Bristol
Inferred County Avon
Volume 22
Page 742

Daughter

Name Joyce W Pannell
Registration Date Jan 1957
[Feb 1957]
[Mar 1957]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Gosport
Ernest S Hallett
Volume Number 6b
Page number 797

First name(s) Benjamin
County Midlothian
Last name Cheshire
Country Scotland
Banns year 1847
Spouse's father's name James Sandilands
Banns date 26 Sep 1847
Spouse's father's occupation Servant
Marriage year 1847
Archive reference OPR 685_1/68
Marriage date 28 Sep 1847
Item 1
Occupation Servant
Year range 1845-1848
Residence No 194 Rose Street, Saint Georges
Page 365
Spouse's first name Janet
Spouse's last name Sandilands
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's residence No 194 Rose Street, Saint George
Place Edinburgh

NO info about the groom's father.............

????

CHESHIRE
JANET
62
-----
F
1897
685 / 1 / 963
St George

Cheshire
Janet
1815
1897
British Newspaper Death & In Memoriam Notices
Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Cheyne Street, St Cuthbert, Edinburgh, St George, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet Cheshire Head Married Female 76 1815 Housekeeper North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Edwin Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 37 1854 Grocer City, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet Martin Cousin Unmarried Female 56 1835 Dressmaker City, Midlothian, Scotland

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Cheyne Street, St Cuthberts, St Georges, Midlothian, Scotland

Janet Cheshire Head Widow Female 66 1815 Annuitant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Edwin Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 27 1854 Grocer Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Frederick Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 24 1857 Stationer Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Cheyne Street, St Cuthbert Edinburgh, St Georges, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Janet Cheshire Head Married Female 56 1815 Domestic servants wife Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
James Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 18 1853 Silver smith Ireland
Edwin Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 17 1854 Grocer (apprentice) City, Midlothian, Scotland
Frederick Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 14 1857 Stationer (apprentice) City, Midlothian, Scotland


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cheyne Street, St Cuthbert's, St George, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet Cheshire Head Married Female 46 1815 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Isabella Cheshire Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1840 Dress maker Ireland
Charles Cheshire Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland
James Campbell Cheshire Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Ireland
Edwin Cheshire Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Midlothian, Scotland
Frederick S Cheshire Son - Male 4 1857 - Midlothian, Scotland
Jessie McLean Visitor Unmarried Female 37 1824 Teacher Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Mary Wilson Boarder Unmarried Female 72 1789 - Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland

SANDILANDS
JANET
JAMES SANDILANDS/JANET
F
12/02/1815
713
60 / 11
North Berwick


CHESHIRE
FREDERICK SANDI
SANDILANDS
M
1856
685 / 1 / 493
Dean, Boroughmuirhead and Morningside

CHESHIRE
FREDERICK S
78
M
1935
518 / 21
Kilfinan

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Name Dorothy May Barnett
Gender Female
Birth Date 29 Mar 1902
Baptism Date 6 Aug 1902
Baptism Place Rustington, Sussex, England
Mother Ellen Barnett

Name Dorothy M Cheshire
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration district Portsmouth
Inferred County Hampshire
Spouse Stanley R Hunt
Volume Number 2b
Page number 1455

1939 Register
2 Posbrooke Road, Portsmouth, Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England

Stanley R Hunt 04 Jul 1908 Male Master Hairdresser Married 6 1
Dorothy M Hunt 29 Mar 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 6 2


Name Dorothy M Hunt
Death Age 59
Birth Date abt 1902
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1961
Registration district Portsmouth
Inferred County Hampshire
Volume 6b
Page 515


HUNT, KENNETH REGINALD CHESHIRE
GRO Reference: 1929 S Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 684

Name Kenneth Reginald Hunt
Death Age 70
Birth Date 30 Jul 1929
Registration Date Jan 2000
Registration district South east Hampshire
Inferred County Hampshire
Register Number F43
District and Subdistrict 5011
Entry Number 89

Name Kenneth Reginald Hunt
Death Date 2 Feb 2000
Cemetery Fareham Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Fareham, Fareham Borough, Hampshire, England

1939 Register
5 East Dean, Petworth, Chichester R.D., Sussex, England

William H Barnett 07 Aug 1884 Male Roadman Wsec Married 29 1
Eileen Barnett 12 May 1856 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 29 2
Annie Pearce (Barnes) 28 Jan 1914 Female Indoor Help Single 29 3
Henry Barnes 14 May 1936 Male Under School Age Single 29 4
Nellie Cheshire 17 Jun 1881 Female No Occupation Widowed 29 5
The record for this person is officially closed.
Irene Jacobs (Hunt) 31 May 1924 Female No Occupation Single 29 7
Kenneth Hunt 30 Jul 1929 Male At School Single 29 8



Name Irene D Hunt
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 1947
Registration district Portsmouth
Percy A E Jacobs
Volume Number 6b
Page number 895

Name Irene Dorothy Jacobs
Death Age 55
Birth Date 31 May 1924
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Portsmouth
Inferred County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 0930

Name Irene Dorothy Jacobs
Death Date 23 Jan 1980
Death Place Portsmouth
Probate Date 18 Mar 1980
Probate Registry Winchester

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fort Cumberland Arms, Eastney Road, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England
Charles Cheshire Head Married Male 41 1850 Licensed victualler Scotland
Sarah E Cheshire Wife Married Female 36 1855 Iron assisting Singleton, Sussex, England
Charles F V Cheshire Son - Male 12 1879 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Edwin J Cheshire Son - Male 10 1881 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
William S Cheshire Son - Male 5 1886 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Arthur H Cheshire Son - Male 3 1888 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Ada E Ruscoe Servant - Female 17 1874 Servant domestic Portsmouth, Hampshire, England


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
71, Gladstone Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England
Charles Cheshire Head Married Male 31 1850 Seaman p o r n Scotland
Sarah E Cheshire Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Hampshire, England
Charles F V Cheshire Son Single Male 2 1879 - Hampshire, England
Edwin Cheshire Son Single Male 0 1881 - Hampshire, England
George Boddie Lod boarder Single Male 28 1853 Boatswain r n Ireland


Name Charles Cheshire
Gender Male
Birth Date 29 Jul 1849
Birth Place Edinburgh, Edinburgh
First Service Date 1 Jan 1873
First Ship Served On Bellerophon
Last Service Date 15 Dec 1884
Last Ship Served On Vernon
Service Number 59334

Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
CHESHIRE Charles Portsea 2b 625
GREENTREE Sarah Emily Portsea I. 2b 625

CHESHIRE, CHARLES FREDERICK VERNON GREENTREE
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 424
CHESHIRE, EDWIN JAMES GREENTREE
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 433
CHESHIRE, ARTHUR HENRY GREENTREE
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02B Page 446
CHESHIRE, WILLIAM SANDILANDS GREENTREE
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 454


Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
Cheshire Sarah Emily 50 Portsmouth 2b 320

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
194, Rose Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Charles Cheshire Head Married Male 36 1815 Servant domestic England
Jessie Cheshire Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Cheshire Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 Scholar Ireland
Sarah Cheshire Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Scholar Ireland
Charles Cheshire Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 - St Georges, Midlothian, Scotland

CHESHIRE
EDWIN
79
M
1934
685 / 2 / 33
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

CHESHIRE
JAMES CAMPBELL
95
M
1949
685 / 2 / 549
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

CHESHIRE
JAMES CAMPBELL
COLVILLE
MARGARET B C
1877
685 / 2 / 199
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

CHESHIRE
MARGARET B C
72
MORRIS
F
1926
685 / 1 / 52
St Bernard

COLVILLE
MARGARET B CRAI
72
MORRIS
F
1926
685 / 1 / 52
St Bernard

COLVILLE
MARGARET BETHUN
ROBERT COLVILLE/ISABELLA MORRIS FR4784 (FR4784)
F
18/10/1853
685 / 1
620 / 272
Edinburgh


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
24, Dean Park Street, St Cuthberts, St Georges, Midlothian, Scotland
James C Cheshire Head Married Male 28 1853 Silversmith Ireland
Margaret Cheshire Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Cheshire Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1879 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Cheyne Street, St Cuthbert, Edinburgh, St George, Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret Cheshire Wife Married Female 38 1853 - City, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Cheshire Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar City, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet S Cheshire Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar City, Midlothian, Scotland
James C Cheshire Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar City, Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret E Cheshire Daughter - Female 2 1889 - City, Midlothian, Scotland

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Cheyne Street, Edinburgh, St George, Midlothian, Scotland

James Cheshire Head Married Male 47 1854 Silversmith Ireland
Marg Cheshire Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Cheshire Daughter Single Female 22 1879 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Janet Cheshire Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Book folder Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
James Cheshire Son Single Male 15 1886 Message boy Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Marg Cheshire Daughter - Female 12 1889 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Eliza Cheshire Daughter - Female 9 1892 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Annie Cheshire Daughter - Female 8 1893 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Cheshire - - Female 0 1901 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland