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Samuel

Samuel Report 5 Jan 2025 16:22

MINNIE and Sam must have met in Manchester as she left Leonard in Staffordshire with his grandmother and.brought Arthur, and Gladys with her they are the ones on the 1911 Census along side.my dad.born 1910.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2025 17:30

That doesn't prove they met in Manchester.

Minnie left Stoke at some point between Arthur's death in Apr-June 1901 and late 1905, but you'll never know exactly when.

Samuel might have been in Stoke during that time , and they may have moved to Manchester together - but you'll never know that either.

She may have left Leonard in Stoke for a variety of reasons. Maybe Samuel (or Minnie herself) didn't want to have to bother with a young child at that time.

For all we know, maybe all the children were left with their grandparents to start with, and the older ones only joined Samuel and Minnie just before the 1911 census.
Lots of unrecorded things can happen in 10 years.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2025 17:42

Leonard was NOT with grandparents in 1911 - he was with an Aunt and Uncle.

Still with them in 1921!

They were Minnie’s sister and her husband………………who didn’t marry until OND 1910

Minnie's father was widowed by 1891, and died in 1906!!

EDITED 06/01

1911 Census For England & Wales
13 Bath St Longton Stoke-On-Trent, Longton, Staffordshire, England
William Sargeant Head Married Male 27 1884 Dipper potter Heathcote Rd Longton Staffordshire
Eliza Sargeant Wife Married Female 36 1875 - Rall Mall Hanley Staffordshire
Leonard Brindley Nephew Single Male 10 1901 School St Marks St Shelton Staffordshire

1921 Census Of England & Wales
13, Bath Street, Longton, Staffordshire, England
William Sargeant Head Male 1880 41 Longton, Staffordshire, England Lodgerman Blairs British Anchor Pottery, Co Longton Staffs
Eliza Sargeant Wife Female 1869 52 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Home Duties -
Leonard Brindley Nephew Male 1901 20 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Colliers Loader, Underground Florence, Coal Iron Coy Co

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2025 12:34

Arthur Brindley's mother re-married, as shown in census records...............this looks likely to be her death.......BEFORE Minnie re-married

Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
Wetton Emma 62 Stoke T. 6b 104