Finding children

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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,739 Send Message	Sidami	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:02
	Is there some where where I can find children to John Makin bn 1880 married to Emily Bowles in 1899 Mike end London end Thankyou apart from bmd
	Researching: Ringrose from Countesthorpe Lord and Burley from Countesthorpe...Dixon Dawson Wood and Wilkinson from Caistor ,Starkey and Wood from Edendam. Hare from Horncastle.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	You should learn your away around this site - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp Pretty sure it's been advised before. It will give births from Q3 1837 onwards showing mmn. However, if it was a second marriage for her, births won't show up as she wouldn't have been Bowles at birth. You can look at census following the marriage and see names of children and then try and find equivalent births to determine if Mother was a spinster or widower
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:24
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	Is this your family ? 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 26, Sage Street, Shadwell, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jack Makin Head Married Male 22 1879 Dock labr London, Middlesex, England Emily Makin Wife Married Female 23 1878 - London, Middlesex, England William Makin Son Single Male 1 1900 - London, Middlesex, England ------------------------- 1911 Census For England & Wales 14 Tarling ST, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Makin Head Married Male 31 1880 Fish porter St Georges E Emily Makin Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Whitechapel London William Makin Son Single Male 11 1900 - St Georges E London Susan Makin Daughter Single Female 8 1903 - St Georges E London Emily Makin Daughter Single Female 6 1905 - St Georges E London Lilian Makin Daughter Single Female 4 1907 - St Georges E London Nellie Makin Daughter Single Female 2 1909 - St Georges E London Emily says they have been married for 12 years and there have been 6 children born of which 1 has died ------------------------- A few more children post 1911! 1921 Census Of England & Wales 14, Tarling Street, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer John David Makin Head Male 1880 41 St George's, London, England Gen Lab Own Account Emily Makin Wife Female 1879 42 St George's, London, England Home Duties - Susan Makin Daughter Female 1903 18 St George's, London, England Almond Picker Muray Millon, Fruit Midland Florence Makin Daughter Female 1905 16 St George's, London, England Almond Picker Muray Millon, Fruit Midland (Out Of Work) Ellen Makin Daughter Female 1909 12 St George's, London, England - - Rose Makin Daughter Female 1911 10 St George's, London, England - - Kate Makin Daughter Female 1911 10 St George's, London, England - - Maggie Makin Daughter Female 1913 8 St George's, London, England - - Robert Makin Son Male 1915 6 St George's, London, England - - Marjorie Makin Daughter Female 1918 3 St George's, London, England - - Mary Mohin Daughter Female 1920 1 St George's, London, England - - ------------------ At the same address but recorded separately there are William Bowles aged 74. single. OAP and Jane bowles aged 28 his daughter a Fruit packer both born Mile end
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	Whilst Ancestry transcript shows her surname as Bowler, the original looks more like Bowles Name John Makin Gender Male Marriage Age 21 Record Type Marriage Birth Date abt 1878 Marriage Date 12 Nov 1899 Marriage Place Saint Philip, Stepney: Newark Street, Tower Hamlets, England Father Robert Makin Spouse Emily Bowler Register Type Parish Register From the original John 21 Bachelor. A Porter of 7 Philpot Street, s/o Robert Makin a Costermonger. Emily 22 spinster. of 77 Anthony Street, d/o William Bowles a Rag sorter Both signed. Witnesses - H Dowler and Louisa Arnold
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:42
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	It may be the time of night but I'm not seeing any Makin/Bowles births even with a phonetic search. Someone may well put me right!
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:54
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MAKIN, JOHN DAVID BARRY GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in ST GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 358 BOWLES, EMILY JANE GORBELL GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 485
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jan 2025 23:57
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	Nearly Emily's address at marriage 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Winterton Buildings, 17, Anthony Street, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Bowles Head Married Male 43 1848 Labourer London, Middlesex, England Jane Bowles Wife Married Female 36 1855 - London, Middlesex, England Rebecca Bowles Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - London, Middlesex, England Emily Bowles Daughter Single Female 13 1878 - London, Middlesex, England William Bowles Son - Male 12 1879 - London, Middlesex, England Tom Bowles Son Single Male 10 1881 - London, Middlesex, England John Bowles Son Single Male 7 1884 - London, Middlesex, England Louis Bowles Son Single Male 5 1886 - London, Middlesex, England Jane Bowles Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - London, Middlesex, England
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,885 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	23 Jan 2025 09:44
	Poster has certainly been given link to GRO in the past
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,666 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	23 Jan 2025 09:46
	MAKINS, WILLIAM SAMUEL mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in ST GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 340 MAKINS, EMILY FLORENCE mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in ST. GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 327 MAKINS, LILIAN JANE mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in ST. GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 300 MAKINS, NELLIE mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in ST. GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 286 MAKINS, ROSE mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in ST. GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 501 ??? MAKINS, CATHERINE mmn BALLS GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 510 MAKINS, MAGGIE mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 536 MAKINS, ROBERT mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 476 MAKINS, MARY mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1920 S Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 435 MAKINS, MAY MARGERY mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1918 J Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 286 MAKINS, DAISY mmn BOWLES GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in ST. GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 403
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2025 13:17
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,732 Send Message	So it was partly the time of night. Susan's birth reg to find and a death pre 1911 Thanks AG for solving that one! ?? A possibility for the missing child. The RD's are next to each other. Death reg. as Makin MAKINS, JOHN BOWLES GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in ST GEORGE-IN-THE-EAST Volume 01C Page 352 Name: Age at Death (in years): MAKIN, JOHN 0 GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 234
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,666 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	23 Jan 2025 14:35
	There's a baptism for Susan, but I can't find a birth record. Susannah Makins in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1923 Name Susannah Makins Gender Female Record Type Baptism Baptism Date 17 Jun 1903 Baptism Place St George in the East, Tower Hamlets, England Father John Makins [ fish porter ] Mother Emily Makins Register Type Parish Register
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

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