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Hello, I am looking for a marriage or a passenger list of George CARO and possibly his wife Sarah. SKS found them on the 1870 US census in Massacheucettes with baby Jessie. George was born c 1845 Poland and Sarah c 1848 Birmingham England. I cannot find George marrying Sarah in England and wondered if they married here or in the US. Can anyone help ? Cheers Joan

I presume you know that by 1881 they were bac k in the UK? Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Geo. CARO Head M Male 35 (BS), Poland Truss Maker Sar. CARO Wife M Female 30 Birmingham Jessie CARO Dau Female 12 America Scholar Isaac CARO Son Male 8 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Emanuel CARO Son Male 5 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Harris CARO Son Male 3 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar Abra. CARO Son Male 9 m London, London, Middlesex, England Jane BARRETT Unmd Female 21 London, London, Middlesex, England Servant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 438 Mile End Rd Shop Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341106 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0481 / 8 Page Number 10

Joan, I tried looking for variations of Caro on immigration records and couldn't find him. I've missed finding people at least three other times, so I'm hoping someone else might be able to find him. I don't have access to any marriage records.

Hi Sylvia and Lisa. Yes, I have them on the 1881. Did you notice the occupation of George !!!! It turned out to be a family business. Thanks Lisa, for the look. Joan

1891 England Census about Jessie Caro Name: Jessie Caro Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Geo Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: American Samoa Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green East ED, institution, or vessel: 13b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Caro 9 David Caro 5 Emanuel Caro 15 Geo Caro 44 Harry Caro 11 Isaac Caro 18 Jessie Caro 19 Leah Caro 8 Sarah Caro 36

Hi All, I have just found the family on the 1871 England census. They must have travelled back from the US after the 1870 census there. Now living in St George in the East. George seems to be spelt Jershon. Still need to know when he married Sarah and when he went to US. Joan x

You may need to get Sarah's maiden name from a birth cert. Harris Caro 1877 Oct-Nov-Dec Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex Abraham Caro 1880 Jul-Aug-Sep St George IN The East London, Middlesex

This looks like the marriage: Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***Caro Gashen London C 1c 230 DAVIS Helen London C. 1c 230 JACOBS Montague London C. 1c 230 ***Lipman Sarah London C. 1c 230 Rose

Sarah in 1861: 1861 England Census about Sarah Lipman Name: Sarah Lipman Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Isaac Mother's name: Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Bham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age Flora Lipman 8 Hannah Lipman 48 Hannah Lipman 16 Isaac Lipman 50 Isaac Lipman 25 Rachael Lipman 13 Sarah Lipman 11 Rose

Thank you everyone, I will send for the birth cert of Harris Caro in 1877 as he seems to be the Henry who married into my line. Although looking at his date of birth he lied on his marriage cert. Married in 1915; Henry age 28 ! When his birth date would make him 38. (I thought only women lied about their age !) Will let you know how I get on, Cheers everyone, Joan

Recieved the birth cert of HARRIS CARO today and guess what......He was registered as a SHE. The birth cert is for ALICE Caro. Born 7th Dec 1877 to George and Sarah Caro formerly LIPMAN. Georges occupation is Truss maker which is correct. On the right hand side of the cert there is an ammendment which says 'for Alice read Harris and for girl read boy' corrected on the 8th July 1919 by the registrar on production of a statutory declarationorder by Jessie Keller and Jacob Keller. I know that Jessie was Harris's sister. Any thoughts anyone ? Joan

Joan I have a birth certificate where a boy was registered as a girl and like yours I think it's because the registrar probably misheard the given name and registered what he thought it was.... including the appropriate gender(for that name) in the right column. The certificate that I have was for a 1888 birth of a boy and was ammended in 1901 after a statutory declaration by his parents. My assumption is that his mum went to register him, took the certificate home without checking ( she made her mark x) and it was probably only when it was needed..perhaps when the lad was to start work....that the error was noted. Gwyn

Thanks Gwyn. I did notice that when I sent for the cert the registration number had a 'a' at the end and assumed as I have found before that there was going to be an amendment to the cert. I know from other certs that Harris married as Henry in 1915 and now wonder why the amendment was made in 1919. Do you think that could be, because he may have died ????? Will have to look for a death registration. From his marriage cert he was a private M.T. A.S.C. Joan

It does seem likely that there was a particular event that caused this to be changed.....and why by the sister? A death might be a possibility...in order to link the birth and marriage certificate, which would 'appear' to be for different people if there was no ammendment. Maybe the widow needed to prove her husband's name. Gwyn

...So I wonder why Jessie and Jacob were involved with the declaration.....unless it had to be from someone who had known him all his life. As you say..fascinating. Gwyn

Hi Gwyn. I am positive that Harris and Henry are the same person. I have Henry's MC and it gives fathers name as George Caro Surgical Instrument maker and Harris's BC as George Caro Truss maker. I have just checked my notes and Henry and his wife had two children Maurice b1916 and Ernest b 1920. So, the amendment didn't come about as his death. Fascinating. Joan

Ummmmm and expensive ! I wish there was someone on here with a link, Have a good day Gwyn Joan x

It still might be worth checking for a death. The 1920 child might have been born after Henry died. Happy hunting. Gwyn

Didn't think of that one Gwyn. I will take a look. Would there be a reason for the amendment if he died ? Joan - This is becoming a very interesting family. The Caro's came from Poland and were all tailors, furriers and truss makers.

Found the marriage ref for GASHEN Caro to Sarah Lipman. 1866 London. Will send for cert. Thanks to All Joan