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hi julie no worries, i guess it does sound welsh .. a bit like carlise i only found out that was up north and not in wales since i started doing my tree :-/ tracy

sorry... i didn't know where carnforth was meself it sounded Welsh

hi reg thank you so much for that, its a big help!! tracy

The marriage is on freebmd............. Name: Lydia Doran Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: Lancaster County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 1066 Richard James Smith So we know we are looking for her under the name Smith.......... Reg

julie thank you for that but they are the wrong ones. tracy

hi reg i dont know when they married but she was 14 on the 1881 census, so it would have been within a couple of years of the 1891 census, i know she died in october 1892 and is buried in warton near lancaster. tracy

Here they are............. Name: Lydia Smith Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richard I Gender: Female Where born: Carnforth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Carnforth Ecclesiastical parish: Carnforth Town: Carnforth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Lancaster Sub-registration district: Warton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William R Doran 8 Elizabeth I H M Smith 1 Lydia Smith 24 Richard I Smith 24 Reg

And 1881 census for ref............ Lydia Doran John, Mary E. abt 1867 Carnforth, Lancashire, England Daughter Carnforth Lancashire Reg

maybe Lydia Smith Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richard Gender: Female Where born: Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil parish: Llangyfelach Ecclesiastical parish: Llangyfelach Town: Clase County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Swansea Sub-registration district: Llangyfelach ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Smidling 31 Annie M Smith 8 Geo Lewis Smith 11 Lydia Smith 40 Rachel Maria Smith 6 Richard Smith 40

When did the marriage take place? Reg

looking for a lydia doran born 1867 in carnforth married to a richard smith born 1869 carnforth they would be living in carnforth around this time. thankyou tracy