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Hi Charlotte You may already have this info. John Owen age 69 buried Stoulton in 1819. Elizabeth Owen age 82 buried Stoulton in 1832. Both born c1750 and the likely parents of the first 7 children. Have you considered that Charles could have been christened as an adult and was maybe the last child of John and Elizabeth and they 'forgot' to have him christened. I have come across several cases of adults being christened just prior to their marriage. In one case 4 siblings in their late teens/early twenties were all christened on the same day and all went on to marry the same year. Perhaps the vicar insisted on proof of baptism before he would marry them. Saying that I can't find any Charles Owen on a census who gave his birthplace as Stoulton. Maureen

I have, admittedly briefly, tried looking up OWEN in the STOULTON 1841 and the 1851 Census but there is only one family OWEN registered there - eldest son John married to Hannah, daughter Bellina(Belinda). IGI says they were all christened in STOULTON. It seems the whole family evaportates - or as you say 'crossed the boarder'. If I give in 'Worcestershire' there are only 690 odd people with about 6-12 records for each name. And the 1840/1850's put the family all in their 30's-40's-50's probably all seperated from each other and married. If I try looking for births on the name OWEN born in STOULTON, there aren't any either (except the a.m. family). I'm beginning to think they lived elsewhere and just preferred using the Stoulton church for christenings. Was that allowed? By the way, I'm dealing with names like Mary and William, John and James too! In a Grumpf! Ch. Harding

Deb I am at this very moment trying to sort out the children of no less than seven couples called James and Mary, in the same, very small, village! They are all related, on both sides too. And you would be surprised how many men marry twice, both times to a woman with the same name! Hope that hasn't put you off... OC

Charlotte It's one of the stupid aspects or GR's running of the site that they 'lump together' all text in first postings......only when one adds a reply does it appear as it is set out......... Those of who have been around for a while usually put something like 'see below' for a first post, then add the message as a first reply........ It is an unnecessarily complicated way of ensuring that one's messages are easy to read and understand.............. Reg

You are right! But funnily enough, I DID submit it in paragraphs (very similar to yours) and GR threw it all together. Odd. Thanks. CH

Please excuse me. It's easier to read this way: This is driving me nuts! I thought I'd hit gold when an IGI Christening search came up with the 8 children born to JOHN OWEN and ELIZABETH in STOULTON, WOR., all born between 1776 and 1824. Stoulton was NOT a big village in those days, so I assumed that all the kids born to 'John Owen and Elizabeth' were one family - however it meant that ELIZABETH would have had her youngest child CHARLES OWEN b. 1824 at the age of 74 - highly unlikely! The child before is MARY OWEN b. 1798 (a 26 year difference between her and Charles ) and Elizabeth would have been 48 - hummm! (Up until what average age did women have kids in the 1700's) So, have two JOHN OWEN's married ELIZABETH's in one little village? What are the possibilities of that?! (John and Elizabeth's 'eldest son' is also called JOHN but he married a Hannah and they only had two girls (fact). He can't be the other John) How can I prove that they are two 'John & Elizabeth' families? And how can I work out to which family the kids belong to? It's all info. before marriage certs and census's, and I don't live in the U.K. so a trip to the parish church is impossible. Any suggestions? Ch. Harding P.s. should I post this here? This is about records isn't it?

This is driving me nuts! I thought I'd hit gold when an IGI Christening search came up with the 8 children born to JOHN OWEN and ELIZABETH in STOULTON, WOR., all born between 1776 and 1824. Stoulton was NOT a big village in those days, so I assumed that all the kids born to 'John Owen and Elizabeth' were one family - however it meant that ELIZABETH would have had her youngest child CHARLES OWEN b. 1824 at the age of 74 - highly unlikely! The child before is MARY OWEN b. 1798 (a 26 year difference between her and Charles ) and Elizabeth would have been 48 - hummm! (Up until what average age did women have kids in the 1700's) So, have two JOHN OWEN's married ELIZABETH's in one little village? What are the possibilities of that?! (John and Elizabeth's 'eldest son' is also called JOHN but he married a Hannah and they only had two girls (fact). He can't be the other John) How can I prove that they are two 'John & Elizabeth' families? And how can I work out to which family the kids belong to? It's all info. before marriage certs and census's, and I don't live in the U.K. so a trip to the parish church is impossible. Any suggestions? Ch. Harding P.s. should I post this here? This is about records isn't it?