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Hi All I am looking for a William Shirley b Adderbury Oxfordshire. What I have so far is William Shirley was baptised 01 Aug 1819 Adderbury Oxford, married Selinda Blencowe 1839 Adderbury Oxford 1841 census HO107 875 1/28 25 Adderbury East, Oxfordshire William Shirley age 23 occupation Agr Lab Selinda Shirley age 35 Elizabeth Shirley age 0 (6 months) 1861 census RG09 343 116 45 7 Townley Place Newington Walworth William Shirley age 41 widowed occupation Cab Driver living alone. 1871 census RG10 729 17 33 41 Picton Street Camberwell William Shirley age 45 widowed occupation Cab Proprietor John Shirley age 21 occupation Carman Willliam Shirley age 19 occupation Brushmaker Henry Shirley age 10 His daughter Sarah Pullinger and her husband & daughter are also at this address 1881 census RG11 671 77 5 41 Picton Street Camberwell William Shirley age 62 widowed occupation Cab Driver He has his married daughter Sarah & her family living with him. William Shirley died 1890 Camberwell Can anyone find William & his children in 1851 please Thanking you all in advance Regards Janice

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Perhaps? Name: William Shibley Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hester Gender: Male Where born: Adderbury, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 252 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Shibley 10 Hester Shibley 33 John S Shibley 4 Mo Sarah Shibley 4 William Shibley 32 Looks like a second wife.......unless she had a second forename Reg

First wife's death????? Name: Selina Shirley Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep DISTRICT: Bermondsey (1837-69) County: Surrey Volume: 4 Page: 22 And re-marriage......... William Shirley 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Bermondsey (1837-69) Surrey Esther Smith 1850 Jan-Feb-Mar Reg

Could this be him transcribed Shibley? 1851 census 2 St. John Place, St. Mary Magdalene, Southwark William Shirley, head, 32, carman, born Adderbury, Oxfordshire Hester, wife, 33, born Weston, Staffordshire Elizabeth, dau, 10, born Adderbury, Oxfordshire Sarah, dau, 4, born Bermondsey, Surrey John S., son, 4 months, born Bermondsey, Surrey

Hi Reg & Margaret Many many thanks to you both for your replies it certainly looks like them. Thankyou both once again Janice

If you've added all the children as being born to Selina, you may have to think again.........!! John S must be Hester/Esther's child Reg

Hi Reg It would appear William had 3 wifes with children from each marriage. Wife 1 Selinda Blencowe died 1849, children Elizabeth & Sarah Ann Wife 2 Esther Smith died 1852, children John & William Wife 3 unknown child Henry. There is a marriage for a William Shirley 1860 Rotherhithe Sep 1d 847 but there are 2 male names & only 1 female, so it looks like the only way to find out who his third wife is will be to get Henry's birth certificate, whoever she was she must have died before 1871 because William is recorded as widowed. Didn't have much luck with his women did he. Thanks again for your time Janice

He was also widowed in1861.Would have been a very short marriage.

There is a marriage entry for Ann Bishop in the right area and qtr..........Ancestry and freebmd have transcribed the page number as 1047, which is completely out of sequence for Rotherhithe. Looking at the image, I think the page number is actually 847............the guy at the GRO had a very strange way of writing the figure '8' Lucy Davies 1860 Jul-Aug-Sep Rotherhithe (To 1869) Surrey John Henderson 1860 Jul-Aug-Sep Rotherhithe (To 1869) Surrey William Shirley 1860 Jul-Aug-Sep Rotherhithe (To 1869) Surrey Marriages Sep 1860 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bishop Ann Rotherhithe 1d 1047 Reg

Where are the sons John and William, and daughter Sarah, in 1861? Reg

Hi Reg Thanks for that, will look into it tomorrow maybe see if I can find a death for either name, off to bed now, its been a long day Janice

Hi Jim Thats thrown a spanner in the works, Yes your right he was widowed & living alone in 1861, how on earth did Henry get here in 1861. Shall do a complete review on this lot tomorrow using fresh eyes & brain, thats if I can borrow one from somebody, this lot are doing my head in. Thanks for your time Janice

Hi Reg Haven't been able to find any of the children in 1861 I could only find William senior living at 7 Townley Place Newington Walworth. Janice