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1881-can't see her! can anyone help please?

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Krissie

Krissie Report 19 Jun 2007 22:25

Thanks Reg, My hunch was correct. I wonder if we have found the right Bessie, then. Has the fairy flown, or maybe gone to bed early? I'm off myself now [it's 11.25 pm here in Kloggieland] goodnight all

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jun 2007 22:05

Having spent some time on this family, I can confirm that Elizabeth(Bessie) was illegitimate. Just for info............... Reg

Krissie

Krissie Report 19 Jun 2007 22:03

Was Bessie conceived out of wedlock maybe, and could Bartlett have been the name of her father? [I have a relative in my tree named this way]. There is an Elizabeth Bartlete staying with her elderly grandparents [from familysearch(.)com]: Elizabeth BARTLETE Birth Year <1860> Birthplace Devon, England Age 21 Occupation Marital Status U <Unmarried> Head of Household James GIFFORD Relation G Daur Source Information: Dwelling Higher St Census Place Brixham, Devon, England Family History Library Film 1341523 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2173 / 46 Page Number 6 Household: Name Relation Age Birthplace Occupation James GIFFORD Head Male 72 Brixham, Devon, England Fisherman Industry Jane GIFFORD Wife Female 71 Brixham, Devon, England Fisher Wife Elizabeth BARTLETE G Daur Unmarried Female 21 Devon, England There is also a Bessie Bartlett, born in Brixham, Devon. Is this any use?

Vera

Vera Report 19 Jun 2007 21:51

Hi. 1881 Found this one .....any good Name: Elizabeth Bartlete Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil parish: Brixham County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Higher St Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Totnes Sub-registration district: Brixham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bartlete 21 James Gifford 72 Jane Gifford 71 Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 19 Jun 2007 21:40

Hi Found it under Harvard. For reference 1871 England Census about Bessie Harvard Name: Bessie Harvard Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Mother's name: Sarah W Gender: Female Where born: Lympstone, Devon, England Civil parish: Topsham Town: Topsham County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: Topsham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 176 Household Members: Name Age Bessie Harvard 11 Charles Harvard 1 James Harvard 36 Sarah W Harvard 30 Regards Vera

Georgina

Georgina Report 19 Jun 2007 21:24

Can you post the 1871 census details, I cant seem to find her as Bessie Harwood? Georgina.

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Jun 2007 21:07

Elizabeth Bartlett Venus-born 1960 Lympstone devon. on 1871 she is with her mum and presumedly step dad as Bessie Harwood(Her Mother was called Venus beofre marriage). I cannot find her as Bessie Harwood,Bessie Venus or Elziabeth Harwood or Venus in 1881 -Only one I could find in Topsham was a Mary venus born 1860 Lympstone-but I don't think thats her-she wa definitely stil alive as she married in 1882 as Elizabeth Bartlett Venus.I Have her mother Sarah ann Harwood (Nee Venus ) in 1881 and she's not with her and her husband James in Topsham. Any help appreciated.