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It sounds more likely, are you sure about johns parents?

Hele I am sure about his parents I have his parents marriage cert. Thank you so much for all your hard work. Hope I get to the bottom of this soon. All the best Jane

Helen I think I am going to call it a day with this line. I will have to send for the marriage certs and see which one is right before doing anything else. Thank you so much for all your help. What would I have done without you. Irene Thank you so much with all your help aswel. Just think without both your help I could so easily have gone very wrong with my tree. All the best Jane

Yes she was married to john gray but he was born a different year, where was he born

Helen I had Alice born in 1883. registered in Lincoln. John Gray born 1874 in lincolnshire 1891 census I originally had him as a servant but wasn't sure 1901 I had him married to Alice with no children although I couldn't understand why she was so young when they married. I originally thought Alice was probably Alice Wiswould. Now there seems to be two John and Alice Gray's. I found a marriage registed in Sculcoates in Yorkshire perhaps this is mine instead. This Alice is Alice Huxley They married in 1900. Helen it is looking more likely now that I Have been extremely silly and jumped to the wrong conclusion. Johns parents have moved to Sculcoates on the 1901 census and this is where the other Alice married John. What do you think. I getting really confused. Jane

Yes girls could marry at 12!!! and boys at 14!!! with parental consent. I have a grt gr grandma married in 1877 aged 15 and 3 months. her cert says 16 but it was stretching the truth cos have her birth cert

John Gray married to Alice Wiswould was born in 1878, what details do you have?

Thanks Shirley Although she may have been pregnant at least she wasn't under age aswell. Jane

Thank you Helen and Irene so much for all this information. Irene one problem has arisen. Johns parents were John Gray and Jane Gray nee Crawforth. Does this mean My john born 1871 didn't marry Alice Wiswould.? Jane

Alice was born 03.06.1883 and baptised 17.06.1883 at St. Mary Le Wigford. Other details of the Wiswould family on IGI. Good luck Irene

As you can see from the 1901 census Alice had Leonard 2 years old and John 2months old and is still living in the same area as they both lived before they married.St. Mary Le Wigford. In the 1891 census they lived just a few streets from each other. John Gray's parents were Robert,a shipwright, and Maria. He had other siblings. Regards Irene

There information on Leonard Wiswould on the igi index on family search, they come from nottingham.

Helen has given you the details for the 1851 census (you can work it out from the year given for his birth and his age). Kath. x

I found them in the 1901 census where Alice had 2 children. I will go back and have a look and check. Irene

Name: Alice Gray Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Le Wigford Ecclesiastical parish: St Faith County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age Alice Gray 18 John Gray 23 John Gray 2 months Leonard Gray 2 Alice and her children

Name: Leonard Wiswould Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: North Muskham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Scampton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Ann Wiswould 3 Betsey Wiswould 9 John Wiswould 1 Lenoard Wiswould 4 Leonard Wiswould 44 Lucy Wiswould 36 Lucy Wiswould 6 Nathaniel Wiswould 11 This is his father

1851 census

Helen Thanks for that new census information but Which census is it. Thanks Jane

Thanks Margaret and Irene. Irene, Leonard was Alice's father. Or did Alice have a Child I don't know about? Thanks for all your help Jane