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Just had a quick look, mum was born in Yorkshire and the elder kids were born in Chatham. That would indicate military. When you are looking for them, there does seem to be a lot of scope for variation on the name, bear that in mind. Have a look on freebmd to see if you can find any of the kids birth refs. Oh and do check in case there is another family with this name and this lot arent yours after all!

I dare say he could - I mean usually a Chelsea pensioner would be someone injured or retired from the army but that doesnt mean he couldnt take another job - a gamekeeper would use a gun and a soldier should have experience of that! You may want to see if the local records office has anything on his gamekeepers licence which he should have had. If he were working for a local estate he may also appear on their pay records. And of course if he were in the army, you have that source of info aswell. Check where the older kids were born, it should give some idea of his service. Have you got Harriets birth cert? That would give mum and dads names and his occupation at that time which may be of use? If that lot are them, it probably means that Fred married before registration which is a shame as you wont be able to get their marriage cert for their parents. But you could try the IGI .

Thanks for that Heather Could he have become a game keeper even though he was a Chelsea Pensioner, I really don't know an awful lot about this subject. Regards Diane

If that is them - the image says Luckford - the father is shown as a Chelsea Pensioner - that is, ex army.

Hello Fox on the Rocks This could possibly be them because Seal is only 2 miles from Sevenoaks and I have just discovered Harriet had a brother John. Many thanks for your time and for searching for me. Regards Diane

Harriet married James Alfred Rickson on 25/12/1875 at All Saints Church, Lewes, Sussex

Diane, This is a possible? occ: pensioner. Name: Harriet Luckfred Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Fredrick Mother's name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Seal, Kent, England Civil parish: Seal County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age George Litchfield 6 Ellen Luckfred 49 Ellen Luckfred 23 Fredrick Luckfred 54 Harriet Luckfred 8 Henry Luckfred 19 John Luckfred 12 Joshua Luckfred 10 Martha Luckfred 16 View Original Record View original image

Unfortunately I do not know. The only information I have is from Harriets marriage certificate. which gives fathers name as Frederick and occupation as a game keeper. Diane

When was her father born? Reg

When was Fred born?

So you don't have any documents stating that he was born in Sevenoaks? When did she marry? Who did she marry? Reg

Can anyone find Harriet Letchford born 1853 in Sevenoaks Kent. Her father was Frederick Letchford also born Sevenoaks who was a gamekeeper. I would be interested in any siblings. Many thanks Diane