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It makes sense that they both may have been married before. Obviously there is a grandaughter so at least Samuel must have had children. Ozi.

Is this the grandaughter in 1881? Name: Eliza Harrison Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Bedworth, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Bedworth County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Market Place Market Street Occupation: General Servant (Domestic) Registration district: Foleshill Sub-registration district: Foleshill ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Daffern 42 Sarah Daffern 44 Joseph Daffern 20 John Daffern 19 Ernest W. Daffern 16 Arthur H. Daffern 14 Sarah A. Daffern 12 Gertrude Daffern 9 Berty Daffern 6 William H. Daffern 5 Eliza Harrison 18 Births Dec 1862 HARRISON Eliza Foleshill 6d 372

neither can i ozi i think judiths maiden name is brooks not sure but i think samuel was married before??? thank you ozi

I wonder if this is Judith? IGI Individual Record Judith Sanders Birth: 1809 Castle Church, Stafford, England Parents: Father: John Sanders Mother: Elenor Eccleshall I can't find them in any other census than 1871!

Perhaps? Marriages Sep 1848 BROWN Peter Ashborne 19 297 GODBER John Ashborne 19 297 ...>>>Harrison Samuel Ashborne 19 297 Hill William Ashbourne 19 297 HILTON Ann Ashborne 19 297 Maskery Jane Ashborne 19 297 Roberts Elisabeth Ashborne 19 297 ...>>>SANDERS Judith Ashborne 19 297

yes thank you ozi

Jet & I have been having a pm conversation. This request came out of it. Is this them in 1871? If so I'll work my way back. Name: Judith Harrison Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Samuel Gender: Female Where born: Bedworth, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Harrison 66 - master bargeman Judith Harrison 65 Eliza Harrison 8 - grandaughter Elizabeth Currell 19 - no relationship recorded. It's not known where she was born & she's a horse driver, obviously for the barges.

The Thomas Holt in the census was a bricklayer's labourer so it probably isn't your family. Ozi.

hi yes thats what he was and later became a bargeman thanks

The birth I found on freeBMD, a wonderful website with more information being added every month. The death I found on ancestry, looking through the bmd indexes (indices?). Judi

thank you very much where did you find that lol,don't suppose you could look for her parents or siblings too, sorry thanks

lol she moved around has all hers and husbands family were canal boat people,so it could be any but thank you both very much

Is this her marriage? Marriages Jun 1919 ...>>>Harrison John A Holt Daventry 3b 304 ...>>>Holt Emily Harrison Daventry 3b 304 Shelton Amos T A Treslove Daventry 3b 304 Treslove Ellen Shelton Daventry 3b 304

i judi thanks for that, but nothing comes up when you look on ancestry bmd do you know why? same with birth? thanks

I found a birth for an Emily Holt Sept qtr 1899 Wolverhampton, vol. 6b, page 576. W'hampton is only 5.42 miles from Tipton. A possibility?? I found a death for an Emily Harrison age 43 in the 4th quarter of 1943 as follows: Harrison, Emily, 43, Uxbridge, vol. 3a, page 87 Does this help? Judi

This is the only Emily born in Staffordshire on the 1901 census: Name: Emily Holt Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Emily Gender: Female Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holt 22 Emily Holt 21 May Frances Holt 4 Emily Holt 1 Elizabeth Holt 1 month

hi i am looking for the birth of emily holt b1900 tipton but i can't find her anywhere? also she died on 1943 as emily harrison can't find that either can anyone help please? thanks